From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: How to make Emacs popular again. Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2020 18:46:18 +0300 Message-ID: <20201020154618.GB6994@t400> References: <20200926163008.GS1349@protected.rcdrun.com> <83y2kwpjfo.fsf@gnu.org> <20200926173651.GU1349@protected.rcdrun.com> <20200927073221.GA13911@protected.rcdrun.com> <83y2kvodty.fsf@gnu.org> <20200928222517.GG18207@protected.rcdrun.com> <837dsclljx.fsf@gnu.org> <20200929151421.GE383@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="23199"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , rms@gnu.org, jamtlu@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Arthur Miller Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 26 20:28:26 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kX8AL-0005ut-3h for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 26 Oct 2020 20:28:25 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40064 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kX8AK-00044Z-2I for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 26 Oct 2020 15:28:24 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:57326) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kX882-0001Dy-N0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Oct 2020 15:26:02 -0400 Original-Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:47125) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kX881-0000u5-2k; Mon, 26 Oct 2020 15:26:02 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([::ffff:197.157.0.60]) (AUTH: PLAIN securesender, TLS: TLS1.2,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 0000000000012194.000000005F9722C5.000011F2; Mon, 26 Oct 2020 12:25:56 -0700 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.170.207.13; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=stw1.rcdrun.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/10/26 15:23:12 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: 30 X-Spam_score: 3.0 X-Spam_bar: +++ X-Spam_report: (3.0 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DATE_IN_PAST_96_XX=3.405, RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=1.5, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:258471 Archived-At: * Arthur Miller [2020-10-20 16:23]: > Jean Louis writes: > > > * Eli Zaretskii [2020-09-29 17:12]: > >> > Search documentation is separate feature from looking up any technical > >> > or special word in glossary > >> > >> No, I think it's quite related, especially since the Glossary is part > >> of the manual. > > > > It is related. Let me express myself better, I am proposing a > > function, something like a long click or key press that is then > > searching in the glossary. Maybe underlying Lisp functions can be used > > for that feature. > > Would it be possible to make something like Helm occur where I can type > a term as pattern in minibuffer and then helm will show different hits > in a buffer; say something like those ambigious names I don't remember > like dired-file-name-at-point and dired-filename-at-point; or if there > is a function and local varaible with same name; so that docs for > all hits are shown in an helm occur buffer, which I can easiry navigate > when I wish just to skim over what function does? I would prefer that to > C-h f or C-h v. You just enable helm-mode and do C-h f Then install Hyperbole package from GNU ELPA and use Action key to jump to function definitions, very handy! It has also other look up functions. > It is already really awesome to be able to see parameters shown on > modeline when I call a function in minibuffer; and jumping into doch > with C-h ... when I wish to test how something works or see the > implementation in another window is indespensible. I just miss something > to look up docs when I need to clear up what something was when I know > how use it but have maybe forgotten some details (like did I want > string-replace or replace-string? ). Maybe there is already something > like that, I am just not aware of it? > > Would be cool for docs, but it would be also very cool for a dictionary > in general; say for pulling a description of a word from different > dictionaries. It would be.