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From: Vasilij Schneidermann <mail@vasilij.de>
To: Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Enforcing TLS for GNU ELPA
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2020 12:07:01 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201020100701.GF1842@odonien.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <X46oXtlvOoAy9/YX@protected.rcdrun.com>

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> > - There's still Windows users who do not have an installation with the
> >   gnutls libraries, despite the strong suggestion to download it for the
> >   full experience.
> 
> I would say, sorry, there is no access to Emacs supported packages. If
> they want without signing, they can find out configuration option.
> 
> > - Emacs versions below 26.1 are affected by a HTTPS proxy bug [1] that
> >   makes life in corporate environments hard.
> 
> I would say sorry for that, and would push security.

What you propose is different: Adjust the default value of
`package-archives` to always use https:// URLs, whereas I propose a more
invasive change: Adjust the server-side behavior to not allow any kind
of opt-out.

> Administrator in corporate environment can provide all allowed or by
> corporation approved packages to each user, either by making general
> settings on a single computer, or by entering defaults in
> /etc/skel/.emacs.d/elpa/you-name-it
> 
> Majority of GNU/Linux distributions already have Emacs packages inside
> of distribution. Some of them have more than few hundred packages.
> 
> In that sense, corporate environment is not a problem as BOFH can do
> it for its users.

That assumes a different kind of corporate environment where the focus
is on provisioning users with software known to be safe.  The issue I've
pointed out is about communication via corporation-mandated proxy being
impossible, something very different.

> There is reason of security, it could be announced in new Emacs
> version. Provided it is done.

Yes, an announcement would be required in any case.

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  reply	other threads:[~2020-10-20 10:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-10-19 22:10 Enforcing TLS for GNU ELPA Vasilij Schneidermann
2020-10-19 22:20 ` Vasilij Schneidermann
2020-10-19 22:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-10-20  7:50   ` tomas
2020-10-20  9:05 ` Jean Louis
2020-10-20 10:07   ` Vasilij Schneidermann [this message]
2020-10-20 11:38     ` Jean Louis

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