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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:258168 Archived-At: On 2020-10-20 01:11, Richard Stallman wrote: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > > BTW, this time-to-load problem of Org is something that would be goo= d to > > fix (basically by being more careful to load things more lazily, so > > a simple Org file can open quickly and only those files which use mo= re > > functionality take longer). > > Separating some of the specific Org applications > from Org mode itself, which we should do to make the design clearer, > would help with this as well. The org-mode people have their own list, so this may only be reaching the eyes of some sub-set of them. Maybe cross-post this suggestion? =2D- hkp://keys.gnupg.net CA45 09B5 5351 7C11 A9D1 7286 0036 9E45 1595 8BC0