From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Proposal for an Emacs User Survey Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2020 10:52:25 +0300 Message-ID: <20201017075225.GZ11061@protected.rcdrun.com> References: <20201016152523.6fdfef65@argon> <6142a27f-c53b-35bf-1038-5f047395e868@yandex.ru> <20201016204531.77fab05b@argon> <725aa7c4-321f-4483-5a21-a148ff7f119b@yandex.ru> <20201016213312.603595fe@argon> <20201017054446.GW11061@protected.rcdrun.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="30292"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/1.14.0 (2020-05-02) Cc: emacs-devel To: Thibaut Verron Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 17 09:53:21 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kTh1k-0007m6-82 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 17 Oct 2020 09:53:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39162 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kTh1j-00015M-6T for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 17 Oct 2020 03:53:19 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:41624) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kTh10-0000W9-Hb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Oct 2020 03:52:34 -0400 Original-Received: from static.rcdrun.com ([95.85.24.50]:58563) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kTh0y-0000m4-KL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Oct 2020 03:52:34 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([::ffff:41.210.154.50]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.2,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by static.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 00000000002A0B3E.000000005F8AA2BD.00005487; Sat, 17 Oct 2020 07:52:28 +0000 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=95.85.24.50; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=static.rcdrun.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/10/17 03:52:30 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.11 and newer [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:257925 Archived-At: * Thibaut Verron [2020-10-17 09:42]: > Can you use Keepass with Emacs? Can you use Keepass on a phone? Can > you use it on a computer without root access? > > > both KDE/Gnome have their password managers > > Can you use them with Emacs? Can you use them on a phone? Password by definition is a secret word or phrase known only to restricted group or individual, I do not share opinion that passwords should be placed with unknown group of people like lastpass, neither at all held in any type of remote cloud. In case of Keepass as free software, yes, it does work on many operating systems, probably more than the proprietary lastpass, and it seems that there is keepass-mode, at least to copy passwords to Emacs, I did not reseach command line. Overall it does not matter, those questions are not relevant, as for GNU project, proprietary software or supporting proprietary software by making Emacs packages that support such or interact with such, are simply no go, as such are controlling the user, and do not give freedom of computing to user.