From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alan Mackenzie Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Stop frames stealing eachothers' minibuffers! Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2020 20:44:08 +0000 Message-ID: <20201013204408.GC8896@ACM> References: <20201013190255.GA8896@ACM> <838sca0w7k.fsf@gnu.org> <20201013195103.GB8896@ACM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="22206"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Gregory Heytings Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 13 22:45:59 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kSRBG-0005cc-BY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 13 Oct 2020 22:45:58 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53356 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kSRBF-0004PU-CK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 13 Oct 2020 16:45:57 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:59808) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kSR9a-0003UN-Uv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Oct 2020 16:44:14 -0400 Original-Received: from colin.muc.de ([193.149.48.1]:56384 helo=mail.muc.de) by eggs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kSR9X-0002BI-G9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Oct 2020 16:44:14 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail 66393 invoked by uid 3782); 13 Oct 2020 20:44:08 -0000 Original-Received: from acm.muc.de (p4fe1592a.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [79.225.89.42]) by localhost.muc.de (tmda-ofmipd) with ESMTP; Tue, 13 Oct 2020 22:44:08 +0200 Original-Received: (qmail 9873 invoked by uid 1000); 13 Oct 2020 20:44:08 -0000 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.1.12 (Macallan) X-Primary-Address: acm@muc.de Received-SPF: pass client-ip=193.149.48.1; envelope-from=acm@muc.de; helo=mail.muc.de X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/10/13 15:02:56 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = FreeBSD 9.x or newer [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:257585 Archived-At: Hello, Gregory. On Tue, Oct 13, 2020 at 20:25:04 +0000, Gregory Heytings wrote: > > If the command using the minibuffer is given on frame F1, and the > > selected frame becomes F2, the minibuffer sometimes moves, sometimes > > doesn't, depending on what the user does. For example, C-s in F2 > > doesn't usually move the minibuffer, but it will if you use C-x 8 > > RET. This is inconsistent. > You are confusing two things here: the minibuffer (for interactive use) > and the echo area (for messages). C-s uses the echo area, C-x C-f and > C-x 8 RET use the minibuffer. Sorry, I meant the use of C-x 8 RET from within isearch. In that sense, usually C-s will not suck in an active minibuffer, but it will if you have to type foreign characters into your search string. This is inconsistent. > I agree with you on one thing: C-x 8 RET should raise a "Command attempted > to use minibuffer while in minibuffer" error in this case ..... You do not agree with me. ;-) C-x 8 RET is essentially a command using recursive minibuffers. Otherwise, how could you type in a foreign character while using C-x C-f? To make C-x 8 RET sometimes recursive, other times not, would be too complicated. > .... (when enable-recursive-minibuffers is nil, which is its default > value). I'm not sure why it doesn't. See above. -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).