From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Proposal for an Emacs User Survey Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2020 07:10:03 +0300 Message-ID: <20201012041003.GY2923@protected.rcdrun.com> References: <30addebe-999b-c1cc-a8d8-27aba3fac566@gmx.com> <4a1188f8-9864-54c0-ae6f-5f32102d9757@gmx.com> <874kn2sdss.fsf@iki.fi> <20201011103235.GA28425@protected.rcdrun.com> <87362ka9zm.fsf@posteo.net> <669a490e-c037-489c-878e-842e5b7e68a3@default> <20201011203347.GU2923@protected.rcdrun.com> <1a3d7c21-92ee-4e50-a41f-2bacc6f17418@default> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="7886"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/1.14.0 (2020-05-02) Cc: "Philip K." , Adrien Brochard , rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 12 06:11:54 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kRpBi-0001xk-58 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 12 Oct 2020 06:11:54 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51566 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kRpBh-0000tr-6v for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 12 Oct 2020 00:11:53 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:60234) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kRpB9-0000UH-QY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Oct 2020 00:11:19 -0400 Original-Received: from [95.85.24.50] (port=49261 helo=static.rcdrun.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kRpB7-00068o-Cr; Mon, 12 Oct 2020 00:11:19 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([::ffff:197.157.0.35]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.2,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by static.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 00000000002A0B3C.000000005F83D762.00004326; Mon, 12 Oct 2020 04:11:13 +0000 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1a3d7c21-92ee-4e50-a41f-2bacc6f17418@default> X-Host-Lookup-Failed: Reverse DNS lookup failed for 95.85.24.50 (failed) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=95.85.24.50; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=static.rcdrun.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/10/12 00:11:15 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.11 and newer [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: 4 X-Spam_score: 0.4 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (0.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=1.5, RDNS_NONE=0.793, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:257442 Archived-At: * Drew Adams [2020-10-12 02:25]: > > > > But if you have to have mail configured, you're also only going to have > > > > a specific subset of all users. > > > > > > Nothing _limits_ input to email. That's all we handle today, and we > > > should at least continue to handle such input. But if we want to > > > entertain supporting other input methods (smoke signals... > > > whatever), that's not impossible. > > > > Is hard for me to understand the above. > > It's hard for me to understand what you write, below. > > My point there was only that nothing limits acceptance > of user input only in the form of email. That's all. > > To be clear, I'm in favor of continuing to accept > input by email. I'm strongly in favor of that. > And in particular by `report-emacs-bug'. Yes, I have confirmed that. Additionally for users who did not set up email system, I said that form can be used to submit information, which in turn is again converted to email. A form submission can be anonymous, or with email address again, but email system need not be set. I am not using Windows, but there I think on Windows mostly. I doubt GNU/Linux systems all have set up email transport, but they would rather have WWW access. Is it now clearer?