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From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: New multi-command facility displays in the wrong echo area.
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2020 10:32:33 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201010103233.GB5662@ACM> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83imbi609a.fsf@gnu.org>

Hello, Eli.

On Sat, Oct 10, 2020 at 09:52:33 +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> > Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2020 20:38:10 +0000
> > From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
> > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org

> > > FWIW, this behavior has been with us at least since Emacs-21.

> > Yes.  At least, it's present in Emacs 27.1.  How come I've never noticed
> > it before?

> > This morning, it was C-x C-s which failed to give me any output,
> > although I was expecting to see "(No files need saving)".

> > I still say it's wrong, but I suppose if I want it fixed, I'll have to
> > fix it myself.

> It is quite unusual to leave an active minibuffer and switch to
> another frame to start an Isearch.

It's rather something I tend to do by accident.  I start a command in
frame F1 which uses the minibuffer, I swap to F2 to look for the text I
want to enter in F1, then sometimes forget I've got the command in F1
still active.

> If you want to fix that, let's please first talk about what kind if
> fix are you looking for.

Above all, I want the command in F2 to use the echo area of F2, not that
of F1 (which in my TTY setup is not visible).

> Do you intend to leave the active minibuffer on the original frame, and
> use the other frame for Isearch?  Note that Isearch also uses the
> minibuffer.

I'm not understanding that, properly.  When I enter characters into
isearch in F2, this doesn't throw an error when the F1 minibuffer is
still active.  Is isearch perhaps just using the echo area, here?

Anyway, I tried the suggestion of Gregory Heytings from yesterday evening
at 21:48:49 +0000.  He put an extra condition into
set-minibuffer-message, so that it only does its thing when the current
frame is also the minibuffer's frame.  It appears to work well.

-- 
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).



  reply	other threads:[~2020-10-10 10:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-10-09 16:34 New multi-command facility displays in the wrong echo area Alan Mackenzie
2020-10-09 19:47 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-10-09 20:38   ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-10-09 22:12     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-10-09 22:56       ` Drew Adams
2020-10-10  6:52     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-10 10:32       ` Alan Mackenzie [this message]
2020-10-10 11:13         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-10 12:36           ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-10-10 12:44           ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-10-10 12:50             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-10 13:00               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-10 20:30                 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-10-11 14:38                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-12  9:12                     ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-10-12 12:00                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-10-12 12:18                         ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-10-12 14:37                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-12 15:41                         ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-10-12 16:01                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-12 16:31                             ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-10-12 17:20                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-12 21:06                                 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-10-13 14:03                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-13 19:27                                     ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-10-13 21:22                                       ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-10-12 17:12                         ` Drew Adams
2020-10-12 17:34                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-12 19:46                         ` Juri Linkov
2020-10-13  2:25                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-14 20:44                       ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
     [not found]                         ` <1cd65040-f7ad-4613-b3fb-7cfa62bb0488@default>
2020-10-14 22:15                           ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-10-14 22:51                         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-10-16  7:19                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-16  7:19                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-10 13:03             ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-10-10 13:47               ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-10-10 20:20                 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-10-09 21:14   ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-10-09 21:48     ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-10-10 10:15       ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-10-10 13:44         ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found] <<20201009163445.GB4027@ACM>
     [not found] ` <<jwv362nkwss.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>
     [not found]   ` <<20201009203810.GC4027@ACM>
     [not found]     ` <<83imbi609a.fsf@gnu.org>
2020-10-10 16:11       ` Drew Adams
2020-10-10 20:40         ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-10-11  0:59           ` Drew Adams

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