From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Proposal for an Emacs User Survey Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2020 20:59:20 +0300 Message-ID: <20201009175920.GD12803@protected.rcdrun.com> References: <30addebe-999b-c1cc-a8d8-27aba3fac566@gmx.com> <87sgaoocg1.fsf@posteo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="31879"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/1.14.0 (2020-05-02) Cc: "Philip K." , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Adrien Brochard Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 09 20:00:22 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kQwgo-0008BD-JA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 09 Oct 2020 20:00:22 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54138 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kQwgn-00016u-IV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 09 Oct 2020 14:00:21 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:57100) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kQwg7-000086-FG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Oct 2020 13:59:42 -0400 Original-Received: from [95.85.24.50] (port=45297 helo=static.rcdrun.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kQwg5-00089J-C4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Oct 2020 13:59:38 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([::ffff:197.157.0.35]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.2,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by static.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 00000000002A0841.000000005F80A505.00003620; Fri, 09 Oct 2020 17:59:32 +0000 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Host-Lookup-Failed: Reverse DNS lookup failed for 95.85.24.50 (failed) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=95.85.24.50; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=static.rcdrun.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/10/09 12:18:07 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.11 and newer [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: 62 X-Spam_score: 6.2 X-Spam_bar: ++++++ X-Spam_report: (6.2 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_SBL_CSS=3.335, RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=1.5, RDNS_NONE=0.793, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_DBL_SPAM=2.5 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: reject X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:257273 Archived-At: * Adrien Brochard [2020-10-08 20:51]: > > Why not just create a simple HTML form with a captcha (not Google's > > thing, but a simple library that generates an image)? I am not using any captcha, simple HTML and server-side spam blocking. For that, two activities are necessary: - administrator to watch for eventual spam, and it will take time until spam starts coming - adding list of keywords into the spam-definition In Common lisp I have something like this that accepts CGI forms: (defparameter *spam-sets* '(("gratitude" "website" "magnificent" "investigation") ("face" "mask" "coronavirus") ("face" "mask") ("blackhat.to") ("disposable" "mask") ("medical" "mask") ("mask" "protect") ("mask" "virus"))) Only if all keywords appear, the text is rejected. In my opinion, it is better that administrator does administration then having all users checked for "being human" and spending time with the form. Jean