From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: How to make Emacs popular again. Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2020 19:07:50 +0300 Message-ID: <20201002160750.GI3520@protected.rcdrun.com> References: <84273aa2-24a9-7584-18b9-03a5ac783d62@yandex.ru> <835z7vjrg3.fsf@gnu.org> <83tuvegkmo.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="4023"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/1.14.0 (2020-05-02) Cc: philipk@posteo.net, eduardoochs@gmail.com, spacibba@aol.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, "Alfred M. Szmidt" , dgutov@yandex.ru, eliz@gnu.org, jamtlu@gmail.com To: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 02 18:17:13 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kONk8-0000uw-Vk for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 02 Oct 2020 18:17:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34628 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kONk8-0003ix-2H for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 02 Oct 2020 12:17:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:53746) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kONbW-0002q7-3A for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Oct 2020 12:08:18 -0400 Original-Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:38343) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kONbT-0000Cb-VM; Fri, 02 Oct 2020 12:08:17 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([::ffff:197.157.0.18]) (AUTH: PLAIN securesender, TLS: TLS1.2,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 0000000000099F48.000000005F775063.00003BFF; Fri, 02 Oct 2020 09:08:00 -0700 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.170.207.13; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=stw1.rcdrun.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/10/02 12:02:41 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: 29 X-Spam_score: 2.9 X-Spam_bar: ++ X-Spam_report: (2.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_SBL_CSS=3.335, RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=1.5, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:256953 Archived-At: * Richard Stallman [2020-10-02 06:57]: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > > > This site seems to offer a gateway between Wiktionary and DICT > > > clients: > > > But to put the blame on dict as the problem seems strange; it isn't > > causing this and it is no different than finger, bug trackers, or even > > just a plain wget. > > I don't want to argue about whose fault it is. The point is that > the lookup software should handle a format that we can download > Wikipedia in. Let me repeat that GNU Dico is also dictd RFC 2229 server, and it is already GNU software, so GNU already has its own dictd - RFC 2229 server, which already has various modules to include various types of dictionaries, not only being in RFC 2229 format. There is module wikimedia that then can use the Wiktionary as database and serve such through localhost server. So the solution is already there. Server and client is here: https://puszcza.gnu.org.ua/software/dico/ dictionary.el can request from server the definitions. modules are explained here: https://puszcza.gnu.org.ua/software/dico/modules.html One of them is mediawiki module which can retrieve from Wiktionary and >From Wikipedia too. Imagine. Thus Emacs can soon have access to all kinds of dictionaries and results can be displayed inside of Emacs, including results from Wiktionary and from Wikipedia. Jean