From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: tomas@tuxteam.de Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: How to make Emacs popular again. Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2020 18:30:53 +0200 Message-ID: <20201001163053.GA13132@tuxteam.de> References: <835z7vjrg3.fsf@gnu.org> <83tuvegkmo.fsf@gnu.org> <20201001143929.GU4797@protected.rcdrun.com> <20201001151146.GA10449@tuxteam.de> <20201001161515.GC4797@protected.rcdrun.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="8t9RHnE3ZwKMSgU+" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="14316"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Jean Louis Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 01 18:48:48 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kO1lA-0003d2-GS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 01 Oct 2020 18:48:48 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43800 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kO1l9-0005Yd-Ej for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 01 Oct 2020 12:48:47 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:43790) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kO1U8-0002Rm-5K for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Oct 2020 12:31:12 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.tuxteam.de ([5.199.139.25]:35770) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kO1U2-0003xU-WB; Thu, 01 Oct 2020 12:31:11 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tuxteam.de; s=mail; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=BkAp5fClm8ELgKMpVg6SgyQ5gLYj1TUSlkit3BYhOYo=; b=MT7P/JzVqviokrSSI7opq54Y4TS57woCBnFuBZ01jwMA+s3nNxHiFxEp6JYWsyWVlGJsltvyNDuqJLf58AjD0wE1Gz9DivRAn3hQ3GAdDh0BHqyNQPoJTpbzKBo3MtFYtjSUMPpVp+9auHAk+GMFQzO/pvlYNBgykEYLWF49OPZoy/6mMdR3CvDp272fybUrFaUIHjCafPLBf+pGwEEWc9/4ylAqoyx+jn/mcZEZ7i5FIubc2a6mcponqsKdXIytYuqI7FZE591Il0/cWAXaQD0F7QbzOyUSWj0KbRRSiPGyGY+Nh5A8jmZ8vri2MMhmph/j3gVBb0z7ADAuiIB8FA==; Original-Received: from tomas by mail.tuxteam.de with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1kO1Tp-0003jB-QB; Thu, 01 Oct 2020 18:30:53 +0200 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20201001161515.GC4797@protected.rcdrun.com> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=5.199.139.25; envelope-from=tomas@tuxteam.de; helo=mail.tuxteam.de X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/10/01 11:11:51 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.1-3.10 [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:256885 Archived-At: --8t9RHnE3ZwKMSgU+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Oct 01, 2020 at 07:15:15PM +0300, Jean Louis wrote: > * tomas@tuxteam.de [2020-10-01 18:20]: > > On Thu, Oct 01, 2020 at 05:39:29PM +0300, Jean Louis wrote: > >=20 > > [...] > >=20 > > > As long as dict database of Wiktionary exists, as I think, by the > > > license, it should exist, so I have asked the webmaster to tell me > > > about that. > >=20 > > I think all those questions are answered in their web pages. The > > license(s) are here [1]. The download question is in the FAQ [2]: > >=20 > > "Q: Is it possible to download Wiktionary? > >=20 > > A: Yes. https://dumps.wikimedia.org/enwiktionary/ should have > > the latest copy of the main namespace. The cleanest navigation > > page is https://dumps.wikimedia.org/. Just download a > > *-articles.xml.bz2 file and some software to read it (for > > *nix, for Windows). > >=20 > > (The "for *nix..." are actually links to software). >=20 > I have tried that, I did not find RFC 2229 format there. When I > mentioned "dict database" I was referring to RFC 2229 standard. Do you > know the link to such database? Wait, RFC 2229 is a protocol description, not a storage format description? So the wikimedia dump format would be irrelevant here, I guess. Related, but not quite on-topic, there seems to be an effort towards providing a dict interface to the wiktionary itself, so if you want to help there [1], I'm sure they'll appreciate. Cheers [1] https://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposal:Dictionary_extensions - t --8t9RHnE3ZwKMSgU+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAl92BD0ACgkQBcgs9XrR2kb20wCfcsLRAv1v03jqZamGIux422OX b1QAn1LTIl155Xj7QlpEKPzG59MJz12+ =8J/P -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --8t9RHnE3ZwKMSgU+--