From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: How to make Emacs popular again. Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2020 18:14:21 +0300 Message-ID: <20200929151421.GE383@localhost> References: <20200926163008.GS1349@protected.rcdrun.com> <83y2kwpjfo.fsf@gnu.org> <20200926173651.GU1349@protected.rcdrun.com> <20200927073221.GA13911@protected.rcdrun.com> <83y2kvodty.fsf@gnu.org> <20200928222517.GG18207@protected.rcdrun.com> <837dsclljx.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="23598"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/1.14.2 (2020-05-25) Cc: rms@gnu.org, jamtlu@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 20 13:32:56 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kUpsu-00061L-LG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 20 Oct 2020 13:32:56 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34726 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kUpst-0000KK-LM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 20 Oct 2020 07:32:55 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:54296) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kUpoG-0004iq-Ge for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Oct 2020 07:28:08 -0400 Original-Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:46351) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kUpoE-0001dP-3R; Tue, 20 Oct 2020 07:28:08 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([::ffff:41.202.241.51]) (AUTH: PLAIN securesender, TLS: TLS1.3,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 000000000005616F.000000005F8EC9C3.00000A88; Tue, 20 Oct 2020 04:28:03 -0700 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <837dsclljx.fsf@gnu.org> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.170.207.13; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=stw1.rcdrun.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/10/20 07:27:48 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: 15 X-Spam_score: 1.5 X-Spam_bar: + X-Spam_report: (1.5 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DATE_IN_PAST_96_XX=3.405, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:258184 Archived-At: * Eli Zaretskii [2020-09-29 17:12]: > > Search documentation is separate feature from looking up any technical > > or special word in glossary > > No, I think it's quite related, especially since the Glossary is part > of the manual. It is related. Let me express myself better, I am proposing a function, something like a long click or key press that is then searching in the glossary. Maybe underlying Lisp functions can be used for that feature. > > I am personall using dictionary servers straight from Emacs, {s-d} on > > any word gives me helm completion, list of dictionaries I can choose > > from, to find a definition, it runs these functions below, and {s-w} > > runs (wordnut-search) from wordnut package, so definitions are > > quickly there accessible. If we speak of text editing, we edit words, > > words are defined and Emacs should have reference to dictionary for > > each word, and fall back to online searches. > > I'd rather have Emacs implement the client side of the DICT protocol, > it shouldn't be too hard. Especially people already tried (there are > packages floating out there). Depending on an external tool makes the > solution less portable. That would be great tool in Emacs, it would make it powerful teaching tool.