From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: A proposal for a friendlier Emacs Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2020 08:45:46 +0300 Message-ID: <20200929054546.GA22699@protected.rcdrun.com> References: <4deb019b-8034-4f18-9bd6-98424a0f09ee@default> <916af7e9-961b-44e5-ab11-0f128f52a8fe@default> <39133459-6582-4772-b2bf-03eb123cb22b@default> <20200928220307.GD18207@protected.rcdrun.com> <83ft71l3cf.fsf@gnu.org> <20200929041613.GH18207@protected.rcdrun.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="1103"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/1.14.0 (2020-05-02) Cc: alexander.adolf@condition-alpha.com, rms@gnu.org, drew.adams@oracle.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 29 07:46:39 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kN8TH-00008q-5v for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 29 Sep 2020 07:46:39 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43184 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kN8TG-0001Hk-7z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 29 Sep 2020 01:46:38 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:34518) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kN8SZ-0000cf-NA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Sep 2020 01:45:55 -0400 Original-Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:39009) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kN8SX-0004wl-PP; Tue, 29 Sep 2020 01:45:55 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([::ffff:41.210.141.134]) (AUTH: PLAIN securesender, TLS: TLS1.2,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 000000000007E023.000000005F72CA0D.000041DE; Mon, 28 Sep 2020 22:45:49 -0700 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.170.207.13; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=stw1.rcdrun.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/09/29 00:16:20 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:256669 Archived-At: * Eli Zaretskii [2020-09-29 08:36]: > > I suggest that there shall be visible, exposed function to lookup > > words in dictionaries. > That could be a useful new feature, but it is a tangent in the context of this discussion. > > Btw, we have a similar functionality built in: try "M-s M-w" after > marking a word or a phrase. I did not know, that is good to search words online, it does not really define words, it searches for whatever is marked, that is good. It is not a dictionary though. I prefer if Emacs would be using GNU Dico software, as part of GNU system: https://puszcza.gnu.org.ua/software/dico/ as a built in feature, so if dico exists, it could use it, if it does not exist, it could then provide www fallback. If local dictionary server serves, dico would be using local dictionaries, if not, it would be using online dictionaries. There are hard coded settings for Google Chrome browser in {M-x customize-group RET browse-url RET} in Emacs, so why not have hard coded settings for dictionary features.