From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Changes for emacs 28, Re: Changes for emacs 28 Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2020 19:13:15 +0200 Message-ID: <20200914171315.GA3969@tuxteam.de> References: <83h7s4fier.fsf@gnu.org> <83d02sfh58.fsf@gnu.org> <83a6xwf9ym.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="EeQfGwPcQSOJBaQU" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="20556"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 14 19:15:00 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kHs4B-0005Da-A4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 14 Sep 2020 19:14:59 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49530 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kHs4A-0008Vu-Bh for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 14 Sep 2020 13:14:58 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:43186) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kHs2h-0007Bb-3q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Sep 2020 13:13:27 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.tuxteam.de ([5.199.139.25]:42232) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kHs2e-0004kf-Q1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Sep 2020 13:13:26 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tuxteam.de; s=mail; h=From:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:To:Date; bh=eE7mBU0gyaAwp5Uk33wYtVx04x+njQfbtYCCrCMzbGY=; b=H0mEIhkRsKHn84+iEMYVvLZ2MowkvAwCB8CSiGjdEWxQi3go4PgB6OnTdzM7DqaOBw27DDeiPdD5LxfGLLs9QoH60LYbOzQDDbz73zEuLhl+mvLaMUuukJMvSg377oSbmXheMZ17LysRIjwyv4on0W8QtINJbSxK95VVGmDVvUdDBuWDZgWUK4Kyu117BjnaKzu162SSAOkuGupvQ0Rg7eyR6HUg/oAV54IXAcUnN9NetiNZJxOQDVnNWBJcDJyWPeHvjuFsJFn1XbMJ0xmwgEL9727qNOOEpfLMdDDUkhGyCaPgb6TiK6sMEklYnIZPcTFf9004NoL2huZkbSzovA==; Original-Received: from tomas by mail.tuxteam.de with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1kHs2a-00017T-L7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Sep 2020 19:13:20 +0200 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=5.199.139.25; envelope-from=tomas@tuxteam.de; helo=mail.tuxteam.de X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/09/14 13:13:22 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.1-3.10 [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:255670 Archived-At: --EeQfGwPcQSOJBaQU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 04:53:07PM +0200, Thibaut Verron wrote: > I think that you missed a message in the long thread. >=20 > To clarify, currently, the "new" button is "find-file", so it does > expect a file name and a path. > The suggestion is to maybe replace it with a function creating an > anonymous buffer, leaving the choice of a path (if necessary) to the > point of saving. Yes, but as Andreas said, Emacs has no information to set a major mode: the file itself is empty, and the name has no hints. Technically, that's OK, but there is the risk that "newbies" do everything in fundamental-mode. Which would degrade the user experience. Cheers - t --EeQfGwPcQSOJBaQU Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAl9fpKsACgkQBcgs9XrR2kaFcgCfesu9VXHWRpZHQHL7mqogdMje Is4AnR39kUJOHxSKE3owcCaa4dCTv7tB =SvWS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --EeQfGwPcQSOJBaQU--