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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:255108 Archived-At: --SkvwRMAIpAhPCcCJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 10:12:01AM +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > From: "Philip K." > > Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2020 09:04:59 +0200 > > Cc: Gregory Heytings , emacs-devel@gnu.org > >=20 > > I think that this is the case, most programmes seem to use the > > "Hamburger Menu"[0] instead of a transitional top-menu. I'm not sure > > what the reason for this change was, but I have a hunch one of the > > motivating reasons was the attempt to merge applications and the window > > frames >=20 > I think the reason is likely to be compatibility with mobile platforms, > where screen space is at premium. This is a friendly interpretation. You're such a friendly person [1]. Me? I'd say the Hamburger menu is the latest fad, to be taken over next year by the Sushi menu, or the Falafel-Halloumi-Magali menu, depending on the alignment of the stars. Never forget that the current trendsetters care for user's well-being as much as the cattle-herders care for their cattle's well-being. They are the wares. Their customers are elsewhere. Cheers [1] Someone might be tempted to read irony in this. That'd be wrong. - t --SkvwRMAIpAhPCcCJ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAl9bKu0ACgkQBcgs9XrR2kZR8ACeMDZy09wRihust2IGbtw5+P2T bs0An3uayefaIFzpvyK/g0nJKB4Yr+9L =7AAr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --SkvwRMAIpAhPCcCJ--