From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ergus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: "modern" colors Re: Changes for emacs 28 Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2020 12:20:00 +0200 Message-ID: <20200910102000.2t6tsju745xutg7u@Ergus> References: <87y2lkb6kb.fsf@gmail.com> <9A4FA038-CCFD-45DF-8B57-E348AFF951D9@gmail.com> <87sgbsb0eb.fsf@gmail.com> <20200909165723.kdnwicwvplmezusr@Ergus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="6190"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: ghe@sdf.org, casouri@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, tecosaur@gmail.com To: "Alfred M. 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:254966 Archived-At: On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 05:09:49AM -0400, Alfred M. Szmidt wrote: > >Fair enough. I don't think we (Emacs community) are in a position to > >make it look "modern" and sexy. I know I'm not because my notion of > >"modern and sexy" is quite outmoded ;-) > > > >But "looks old" is usually not a deal breaker, just a negative > >first impression. > > Actually spacemacs made it to look a bit more modern by just changing > some colors. > >What kind of changes to colors was that? It would be good to quantify >what "modern" means. > In general this is very subjective. But looking at WinXP vs Win10 one gets more or less where the style feeling is moving to. Specially the colors and the default fonts in the interfaces make a big difference; but also the whole integration. > >Whenever I have to write text outside Emacs I feel hampered. > > Emacs has even a telegram client, jabber client, and IRC... so of course > any method we use to communicate must have an emacs client, a web or > desktop client and a mobile client. > >Only as long as those protocols/systems do not require or recommend >non-free software. > I just mentioned those as examples of how software communities interact these days. But of course emacs has special requirements. In particular I would recommend to give a look to a self-hosted Mattermost or Matrix.org or Zulip. So far the only missing for the moment is the emacs client, but apis are available.