From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: A new user perspective about "Changes for emacs 28" Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2020 10:41:16 +0200 Message-ID: <20200909084116.GC31381@tuxteam.de> References: <20200907180812.5tfylspp7i6vl4o3@Ergus> <94fda087-a61b-356d-4bb4-791907593246@yandex.ru> <24302cf8-5ac8-4abd-83ce-3e33c51a8beb@default> <83k0x4mjsv.fsf@gnu.org> <831rjcmgn8.fsf@gnu.org> <20200909083521.fftcvhi6ec26a5wa@Ergus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="qtZFehHsKgwS5rPz" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="12506"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 09 10:42:39 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kFvgc-00038J-0L for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 09 Sep 2020 10:42:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53036 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kFvgb-00073r-0i for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 09 Sep 2020 04:42:37 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:41822) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kFvfR-00050z-QV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Sep 2020 04:41:25 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.tuxteam.de ([5.199.139.25]:54637) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kFvfP-0007Wz-I0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Sep 2020 04:41:25 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tuxteam.de; s=mail; h=From:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:To:Date; bh=C/vxTQijFhnmvvrx756kw/SIZ8eQh4txAJuoshkbnjc=; b=E3tTsJk3PqeNlU5b+S41V3Fx2ES2kjH8lJgNze+ZKfa0lnhMYzO+C/B4mr+XyXE6jN+uWNqz12VrvaF6oJS5WeFvT5pEq2cJjc1JLLYqrQYavuP7MXSL1kyczMD0C6rvILLalTLWhnTG9pUO8n995JqMp935IcTeR6TdkA+AX2xPB73QsOgzjUcanCH6EDzYbT8hKXAkGm/yeEa64YZkW4Kg+d+xBTs6PxGYEhN9lf3IiOR/ExUkazRpQiZ9qmiC658+yFD91dPFNZnQwX2d55elfJ6jCaTt/ESJffbnKw7k1U1DPGEu6WD6hh/RDijOH3a+xwgq3szC1SRlvclAVg==; Original-Received: from tomas by mail.tuxteam.de with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1kFvfI-0000an-3m for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Sep 2020 10:41:16 +0200 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20200909083521.fftcvhi6ec26a5wa@Ergus> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=5.199.139.25; envelope-from=tomas@tuxteam.de; helo=mail.tuxteam.de X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/09/09 03:57:50 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.1-3.10 [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:254855 Archived-At: --qtZFehHsKgwS5rPz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Sep 09, 2020 at 10:35:21AM +0200, Ergus wrote: > Hi Arthur: >=20 > The non technical part of the "popularity" problem is >=20 > 1) the lack of interaction of core emacs developers with the communities > outside (github independent package developers, reddit, telegram groups) You depict it as if it were just in that one direction. This is interesting. Cheers - t --qtZFehHsKgwS5rPz Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAl9YlSwACgkQBcgs9XrR2kZulgCfeIUojn5pGFHuxi3PHjWnKSPN yPgAn2og8DC6HuaJkbxo9KnjuABvu1RX =uLS6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --qtZFehHsKgwS5rPz--