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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:254731 Archived-At: I can't support this more effusively!! +10 from my side. What I don't understand is why the version in elpa is very old (and says obsolete) compared to the one in melpa. On Tue, Sep 08, 2020 at 01:54:45PM +0000, Stefan Kangas wrote: >Dear all, > >`which-key' is a package that unobtrusively shows you the available >keybindings at the bottom of the screen upon typing a prefix command >(after a configurable delay). It is an excellent alternative and >complement to the default help. See the screenshot here: > > https://raw.githubusercontent.com/justbur/emacs-which-key/master/img/which-key-bottom.png > >`which-key' is in GNU ELPA, and was upgraded yesterday: > > https://elpa.gnu.org/packages/which-key.html > >I propose to include `which-key' in the default Emacs distribution. >I expect that it will be extremely useful for beginning users, but it also >helps advanced users to quickly look up and discover keybindings. In my >experience, that is true even in modes you already know deeply. > >I've proposed this before, and have not seen any objections so far. >So I'd like to ask here again, to see if people have any concerns or >pointers for how to go about it in practice. > >Any comments? > >Best regards, >Stefan Kangas > >PS. I personally think it should be enabled by default, but we would > probably do better to first include it as an option for people to > get more experience with it. >