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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:254726 Archived-At: On Tue, 08 Sep 2020 13:50:37 +0100, Jo=E3o T=E1vora wrote: > Boruch Baum writes: > > > On Tue, 08 Sep 2020 12:13:04 +0100, Jo=E3o T=E1vora wrote: > >> It must be a command-line option because when reproducing and fixing > >> bugs on Emacs, you very frequently have the need to run "a bare Emacs > >> -Q" frequently from a shell, devoid of any third-party packages that = may > >> be interfering. > > > > That's only ever is true when reporting a bug to the emacs project > > itself. > > No, no and no. When answering bug reports for a package that is _not_ > in Emacs it's imperative that the reporter uses Emacs -Q + setup when explaining the problem. You're right. I'm surprised I wrote that part. =2D- hkp://keys.gnupg.net CA45 09B5 5351 7C11 A9D1 7286 0036 9E45 1595 8BC0