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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:254574 Archived-At: On Sun, Sep 06, 2020 at 12:54:08PM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: >>>> 5) Enable winmove and mouse-wheel-mode by default. >>> mouse-wheel-mode is already enabled by default on most graphical >>> displays. >> Right!... btw why not in the terminal? > >I think it *is* enabled in the terminal as well. > >But it only works if you ask to capture the terminal's mouse buttons >with `xterm-mouse-mode`. > > > Stefan "who doesn't use a mouse any more" > Hi Stefan: Is there a reason why the user needs to enable this explicitly? The wheel and mouse works for me when using man/less/vim, out of the box. Couldn't we do the same? Best, Ergus