From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alan Mackenzie Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [PATCH] Remove obsolete fast-lock and lazy-lock libraries Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 19:12:46 +0000 Message-ID: <20200812191246.GA15490@ACM> References: <20200810110458.GA4294@ACM> <20200810172509.GB4294@ACM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="10045"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Eli Zaretskii , stefankangas@gmail.com, Jeff Norden , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Aug 12 21:13:29 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1k5wBk-0002WD-1H for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 12 Aug 2020 21:13:28 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56918 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k5wBj-0001oS-3c for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 12 Aug 2020 15:13:27 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:56972) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k5wBC-0001M7-7d for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Aug 2020 15:12:54 -0400 Original-Received: from colin.muc.de ([193.149.48.1]:12600 helo=mail.muc.de) by eggs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k5wB9-0007eH-2o for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Aug 2020 15:12:53 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail 63793 invoked by uid 3782); 12 Aug 2020 19:12:47 -0000 Original-Received: from acm.muc.de (p4fe15979.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [79.225.89.121]) by localhost.muc.de (tmda-ofmipd) with ESMTP; Wed, 12 Aug 2020 21:12:46 +0200 Original-Received: (qmail 15539 invoked by uid 1000); 12 Aug 2020 19:12:46 -0000 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.1.12 (Macallan) X-Primary-Address: acm@muc.de Received-SPF: pass client-ip=193.149.48.1; envelope-from=acm@muc.de; helo=mail.muc.de X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/08/12 15:12:48 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = FreeBSD 9.x or newer [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:253715 Archived-At: Hello, Stefan. On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 18:19:30 -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > >> > At the moment, sensible normal values are nil and jit-lock-mode. > >> > Also sensible would be, for example, jit-lock-debug-mode, when a > >> > user wants to compare standard jit with her own enhanced version. > >> > It is not inconceivable that somebody might write something entirely > >> > new to supersede jit-lock. Why do you want to make these things > >> > more difficult to do? > > So the question remains: why do you want to make these more advanced > > forms of debugging more difficult? > I'm sorry, but you lost me: what "more advanced forms of debugging"? My mistake, sorry: I was under the false impression that the value of font-lock-support-mode was a function. Looking at the code, it might well have been in the distant past, before jit-lock was introduced in Emacs 21.1. [ .... ] > Stefan -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).