From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Alan Third Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Why are so many great packages not trying to get included in GNU Emacs? 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:252166 Archived-At: On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 03:50:05PM +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > From: Konstantin Kharlamov > > Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2020 14:59:21 +0300 > > > > Okay, so usually email-based projects recommend using git-send- > > email. Recently I sent a patch like thisą and got a complaint it > > doesn't look like what git-format-patch would produce (is that maybe a > > hint maintainers are being strained too?). Huh, wrong way again? > > FTR: that wasn't a complaint, it was a gentle request for the future. > Your patch was committed, before I sent that request, even though > committing it required some extra manual work on my part. > > We recommend using git-format-patch because it makes applying the > patch easier and less error prone. It never occurred to me that a > routine recommendation would be interpreted as a "complaint", let > alone trigger a 950-word rant. I could be wrong but to me that patch looks fine and applies here without modification. The only possibly unusual step I took was to save the complete email to a file, then I applied it using git as normal. Am I missing something here? -- Alan Third