From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Alan Third Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Consistent vanilla Emacs Date: Fri, 15 May 2020 23:35:25 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <20200515213519.GA55337@breton.holly.idiocy.org> References: <8336814sbn.fsf@gnu.org> <83imgx34bb.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="33466"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: "Nicolas P. Rougier" , Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org, stefankangas@gmail.com, dgutov@yandex.ru To: Robert Pluim Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri May 15 23:36:21 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jZi0D-0008bi-07 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 15 May 2020 23:36:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44382 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jZi0C-0007tP-0P for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 15 May 2020 17:36:20 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:44592) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jZhzW-0007NB-2A for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 15 May 2020 17:35:38 -0400 Original-Received: from mailout-l3b-97.contactoffice.com ([212.3.242.97]:55472) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jZhzU-0002Uy-Ea; Fri, 15 May 2020 17:35:37 -0400 Original-Received: from smtpauth1.co-bxl (smtpauth1.co-bxl [10.2.0.15]) by mailout-l3b-97.contactoffice.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 785213402; Fri, 15 May 2020 23:35:31 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1589578531; s=20200222-6h9o; d=idiocy.org; i=alan@idiocy.org; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version:Content-Type:In-Reply-To; l=1094; bh=p3ClhMmpy+IvPigr52/8V0RueKecK4ogMis/bSJRkrQ=; b=dlFoIxQAvJgJxyOMckOjOfDrzAuaaDFgEqftQ0kbW3KWnSho9gubIdJ7P0FyssNO c/zFDDbJD0QWsLWWJJfSovwybz9L3ak5uD8SD2/xysftncNmKBdo3aZ3wAGHxl9H2K4 tORD7adLOL/HaCEE92AS0TpY6WKOpaPuDxtroPV9YmiOzQcJazcTlrQuelR0CZacdJy 0EXvN4UojFhpahnrW5vikvdW3UpNtXl9z4DFEPa9IwLjBGq2xYh3ZIpf/wKKqn84IB3 cMjVe0TLgKOS8qa01KiswLPC1Cn04BG1J0/Ef34PbW1kIqr6jQtMITL18mQqYSxUS5v 5DZg6YTj/Q== Original-Received: by smtp.mailfence.com with ESMTPA ; Fri, 15 May 2020 23:35:21 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: by breton.holly.idiocy.org (Postfix, from userid 501) id 62F822022CD60D; Fri, 15 May 2020 22:35:19 +0100 (BST) Mail-Followup-To: Alan Third , Robert Pluim , Eli Zaretskii , dgutov@yandex.ru, stefankangas@gmail.com, "Nicolas P. Rougier" , emacs-devel@gnu.org Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-ContactOffice-Account: com:241649512 Received-SPF: pass client-ip=212.3.242.97; envelope-from=alan@idiocy.org; helo=mailout-l3b-97.contactoffice.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/05/15 17:35:31 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.11 and newer X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:250430 Archived-At: On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 12:18:21PM +0200, Robert Pluim wrote: > >>>>> On Fri, 15 May 2020 13:01:12 +0300, Eli Zaretskii said: > > >> From: "Nicolas P. Rougier" > >> Cc: Dmitry Gutov , stefankangas@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org > >> Date: Fri, 15 May 2020 09:11:14 +0200 > >> > >> > >> Can we instead choose a "decent" font among those installed and depending on > >> the system? Or is it already the case? In my case (OSX), the chosen system font > >> seems to be Monaco while the default system font is Menlo (or SF Mono if XCode > >> installed). Would that be possible to have an ordered list of font to try? > > Eli> AFAIK, we already have that. If you want to propose a different order > Eli> or changes to the set we use on macOS, please show a patch. > > I get Menlo from 'emacs -Q' on macOS, not sure why Nicolas would see > anything different. Me too. I believe the Mac port uses Monaco (and possibly versions of the NS port which date to before Apple changed the default system font). -- Alan Third