From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Imports / inclusion of s.el into Emacs Date: Mon, 4 May 2020 17:32:01 +0200 Message-ID: <20200504153201.GA20443@tuxteam.de> References: <831ro2tqqx.fsf@gnu.org> <4a1fd3f4-df92-c756-9874-4d07b54148ac@yandex.ru> <3bd09dca-dcdc-7569-e5fb-f6b53397af9d@yandex.ru> <83pnbjokdt.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="OXfL5xGRrasGEqWY" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="71928"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon May 04 17:38:31 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jVdAr-000ISr-Kt for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 04 May 2020 17:38:29 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33116 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jVdAl-0001a0-JS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 04 May 2020 11:38:23 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:60746) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jVd4g-0007z0-N8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 May 2020 11:32:06 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.tuxteam.de ([5.199.139.25]:46088) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jVd4e-0007KZ-0o for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 May 2020 11:32:06 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tuxteam.de; s=mail; h=From:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:To:Date; bh=MScn0mZ+bI/HY4D0wjQ7FHu9e//qUVzlgJhuaFKyck0=; b=aywXlkEs7435O+G12PFJmwZAyymoQyVrTKJfI53WSN42tE7iMlfoRABvKsaebSEHN+Ruefo1Lcw6TCgcHGTWb9eP5nQARwDjWKdAsc5SxfMSfrG1SkQw2JUzTj82P10GIAEFhQMQ44roqcDJObYEaT9oZXCkFub3PtVDkYKpKWRmIuF4+elqnW1SHTyYQC/XNrFwXKL21KLfGAjct7Nzqy4yz5pDDeJAI9rq7iTD8KvUg6N/j26+n9U1h1e03wVqTYFi30eFeKi65E4ikddGUhIp+yYRUvpnmGx1DYeMhvMIug99fljiumOTMRRUlI5BPHAokMo6q/uslkDSdprYew==; Original-Received: from tomas by mail.tuxteam.de with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1jVd4b-0005Nb-By for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 May 2020 17:32:01 +0200 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <83pnbjokdt.fsf@gnu.org> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=5.199.139.25; envelope-from=tomas@tuxteam.de; helo=mail.tuxteam.de X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/05/04 11:32:01 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.1-3.10 [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:248845 Archived-At: --OXfL5xGRrasGEqWY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline On Mon, May 04, 2020 at 05:16:46PM +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote: [...] > IMNSHO, it's inaccurate, and even somewhat unfair, to claim that Emacs > doesn't adapt [...] Seconded. I think it'll be difficult to find another software project with 30 years of history. It'd be impossible to achieve that without adapting. Hitting a sweet spot between stability and steady-state change is not an easy task, and I think Emacs maintainers have done an outstanding job at that. Cheers -- t --OXfL5xGRrasGEqWY Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAl6wNXEACgkQBcgs9XrR2kY8bgCfVIHb2olcOhWfBW4eTwEYbkYe cKMAnA9pMBDc7jGxDAGhimQKaP9Aryn2 =So5r -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --OXfL5xGRrasGEqWY--