From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
To: Yuan Fu <casouri@gmail.com>
Cc: Emacs developers <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Add some aliases for re-related functions
Date: Sat, 2 May 2020 19:29:08 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200502192908.GD6832@ACM> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7976B8C1-AFC7-4662-B750-6492EB70C0D5@gmail.com>
Hello, Yuan.
On Sat, May 02, 2020 at 14:28:08 -0400, Yuan Fu wrote:
> While debating whether it’s effective to add prefixes to increase
> discoverability, lets start with incremental and uncontroversial
> changes.
Ha! No chance! ;-(
I don't believe these proposed changes will increase discoverability to
any important extent. More importantly, they will decrease the
usability of these functions, as they will be more of a hassle to type
in and (more importantly) make the functions they are in more difficult
to read.
> Let’s start from re-related functions since it seems that many people
> agree on this. Here is a list of functions that I think could benefit
> from an alias.
> replace-regexp-in-string re-replace-in-string
> replace-match re-replace-match
> string-match re-search-in-string
> string-match-p re-match-in-string-p
> match-string re-matched-string
> match-string-no-properties re-matched-string-no-properties
> match-beginning re-match-beginning
> match-end re-match-end
> looking-at re-match-after-point
> looking-back re-match-before-point
> looking-at-p re-match-after-point-p
> posix-search-forward re-posix-search-forward
> posix-search-backward re-posix-search-backward
> posix-looking-at re-posix-looking-at
> posix-search-in-string re-posix-search-in-string
> Let’s do it like this: if you don’t like adding alias to a certain
> function (strongly), call it out and we will remove it from the list
> for now.
I strongly object to those aliases which make the function name longer.
I particularly object to `re-match-after-point' for `looking-at'. Not
only is it much longer, it lacks the instant readibility of looking-at,
and the slightly humorous notion of "looking", as though with ones eyes.
I particularly object to `re-matched-string', which has double the
number of syllables in it as the original.
As a small point, you've erased the commonality between
match-beginning/end and match-string. This is a bad thing.
> Then we should have a small list that everybody agrees upon (or at
> least no one absolutely hates).
I hate your list. ;-) (Nothing personal in that.)
> And please do not drift the topic away in this thread, which hinders
> the original purpose of the thread. Let’s focus on these functions and
> only these functions.
As long as people do not take for granted that introducing lots of
aliases is a good thing. I believe it is not.
> Yuan
--
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).
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Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-05-02 18:28 Add some aliases for re-related functions Yuan Fu
2020-05-02 18:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-02 18:43 ` Yuan Fu
2020-05-02 21:21 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-02 22:27 ` Drew Adams
2020-05-03 8:33 ` Michael Albinus
2020-05-03 19:07 ` Drew Adams
2020-05-02 19:29 ` Alan Mackenzie [this message]
2020-05-02 19:48 ` Yuan Fu
2020-05-02 20:10 ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-05-02 20:13 ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-05-03 14:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-04 3:09 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-04 14:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-04 17:12 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-04 17:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-04 17:42 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-04 17:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-04 17:53 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-02 21:09 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-05-02 21:51 ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-05-03 9:43 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-05-03 15:00 ` 조성빈
2020-05-02 22:41 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-03 17:14 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-05-04 10:07 ` João Távora
2020-05-03 14:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-03 16:20 ` Yuri Khan
2020-05-03 16:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-03 16:50 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-02 21:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-02 22:10 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-02 22:18 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2020-05-02 22:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-02 23:13 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-03 3:55 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-04 0:29 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-04 3:11 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-02 22:44 ` Drew Adams
2020-05-03 3:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-03 4:37 ` Drew Adams
2020-05-03 8:05 ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-05-03 9:55 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-05-03 10:26 ` tomas
2020-05-03 15:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-03 19:47 ` Drew Adams
2020-05-04 7:32 ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-05-04 8:20 ` Sending plaintext with Gmail (was: Add some aliases for re-related functions) Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-05-04 8:45 ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-05-04 15:09 ` Sending plaintext with Gmail Stefan Monnier
2020-05-04 15:25 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-05-04 15:29 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-05-05 8:13 ` HTML display in Gnus (was: Sending plaintext with Gmail) Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-05-05 8:24 ` HTML display in Gnus Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-05-05 9:26 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-07-17 17:14 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-05-04 15:39 ` Sending plaintext with Gmail Andreas Schwab
2020-05-04 16:51 ` Add some aliases for re-related functions Drew Adams
2020-05-04 17:10 ` Drew Adams
2020-05-04 18:17 ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-05-04 18:33 ` Drew Adams
2020-05-05 2:48 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-04 3:08 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-04 10:16 ` João Távora
2020-05-04 3:04 ` Richard Stallman
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