From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: tomas@tuxteam.de Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Namespacing Emacs's core (was: [ELPA] New package: transient) Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2020 17:08:41 +0200 Message-ID: <20200430150840.GA8567@tuxteam.de> References: <83y2qezlpd.fsf@gnu.org> <83tv12zjx1.fsf@gnu.org> <20200429101755.GF24737@tuxteam.de> <83pnbqzimz.fsf@gnu.org> <20200429105233.GG24737@tuxteam.de> <20200430132812.GD1444@tuxteam.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="mYCpIKhGyMATD0i+" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="119515"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: Arthur Miller , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 30 17:15:06 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jUAtz-000Uty-KZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 30 Apr 2020 17:15:03 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44486 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jUAty-0001tT-GT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 30 Apr 2020 11:15:02 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:38790) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jUAok-0007eQ-Hv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Apr 2020 11:14:11 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jUAnu-0006GU-Jg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Apr 2020 11:09:38 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.tuxteam.de ([5.199.139.25]:33939) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jUAnt-0006Bw-Qn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Apr 2020 11:08:46 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tuxteam.de; s=mail; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=Q5pXCBDUvESddUCwAGMV+PgPcsx4SYEHFkKJCIAqCm0=; b=QVCPnR74rP1TRl9/NNCtWSluiXeMPoKIsA7is59uDSR1aqI36VeWL4cglu7jC074dNhCoN/yFQB0U4g0gRR8CcCkmWX9dCKWLXiXyujuWlY8yisnL5HpOSY83W2ps4VFBy9xfbcMSZRKICUhkDDmJybEH4JgeuBUFcruIAFe4gP+48ksHUFY+t1BHeoLJ1eBostiJ5VIzT66qHEhtqk2CvUTjtSqbKL4RUMc8YPZR3tF2jmRlfPRjkXcodTvE8ufCeArnBp2f3v3D7Tyd0Z7daP/i7cCh+5hRymG7h8I60P//f5jc7P9xQZf1ykWTQa1wYpP5w85ilc2rruD04JDoA==; Original-Received: from tomas by mail.tuxteam.de with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1jUAnp-0002Lg-1y; Thu, 30 Apr 2020 17:08:41 +0200 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=5.199.139.25; envelope-from=tomas@tuxteam.de; helo=mail.tuxteam.de X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/04/30 08:38:55 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.1-3.10 [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 5.199.139.25 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:248245 Archived-At: --mYCpIKhGyMATD0i+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 10:26:42AM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > Where am I? I'd leave traditional Lisp names where they are. When > > inventing new names, by all means try to make them regular (which, > > as we know, is hard /and/ impossible, but trying already helps). >=20 > Just to be clear: while I am in favor of considering some renaming to > improve the regularity of our names (among other reasons), I have no > intention to rename the world and especially not core Lisp elements [...] That wasn't my take either, of course. Cheers & thanks -- t --mYCpIKhGyMATD0i+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAl6q6fgACgkQBcgs9XrR2kbORgCfdHggSOcKehhsfAse9Q3C4mMw yNUAn33HCXBECOmsqqJprhi5ZxW+Nk06 =PNXD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --mYCpIKhGyMATD0i+--