From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: tomas@tuxteam.de Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [ELPA] New package: transient Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 16:01:00 +0200 Message-ID: <20200429140100.GB14632@tuxteam.de> References: <87v9ljo5d0.fsf@bernoul.li> <87ftcnxu5m.fsf@bernoul.li> <83y2qezlpd.fsf@gnu.org> <83tv12zjx1.fsf@gnu.org> <20200429134246.GA14632@tuxteam.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="f2QGlHpHGjS2mn6Y" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="36401"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: Emacs developers To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 29 16:10:32 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jTnPy-0009Fw-6X for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 29 Apr 2020 16:10:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37008 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jTnPx-0002K7-52 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 29 Apr 2020 10:10:29 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:42610) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jTnH6-0002v8-6q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Apr 2020 10:01:23 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jTnGq-0004Y7-OR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Apr 2020 10:01:19 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.tuxteam.de ([5.199.139.25]:58998) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jTnGp-0004XD-PF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Apr 2020 10:01:04 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tuxteam.de; s=mail; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=3bsPaLuqAE4xFGwUZcKB0y4NbCnUzm417xSDRRRIY34=; b=DZktKaSKuWDGfv7rMf7jjE/2kTVeo/Ad02iw49zzdR4lg/k8zoKa4dx09xol3FChBjspZ/TvCu4fCUKhlvNG9KDFmZa1ir0WB7ipxDyVFgbQaZydFZ07m8CV+tyspBdGiA9D6aZxuW7WeV3vyY+byOB/Dh/KN/EYdRKUVMfrU+YcPnAJGvBkp7FOt/4NbwCmCmSh2CPx+Xcx+vxRruvhxjv/rXDcfuHmrdzQ/DN/h2iCIJFId5Pz82gF7ayAkir30/HDUl7T3QjSrqmnzq2Qco9c+cUmGOyiJ1yDxCr3NAbMiehOQRRqynRWuNJ/i65CLyRcux0s2noJIpdMO9Dx3g==; Original-Received: from tomas by mail.tuxteam.de with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1jTnGm-0004GT-Q8; Wed, 29 Apr 2020 16:01:00 +0200 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=5.199.139.25; envelope-from=tomas@tuxteam.de; helo=mail.tuxteam.de X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/04/29 09:42:47 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.1-3.10 [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 5.199.139.25 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:248137 Archived-At: --f2QGlHpHGjS2mn6Y Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 03:53:12PM +0200, Stefan Kangas wrote: > writes: >=20 > > > It is much easier for the mind to think in terms of namespaces, here = are > > > examples from other languages: > > > > What do you propose? > > > > I think "rename everything" doesn't look like a viable option? >=20 > I'm not sure "everything" would have to be renamed. Only the names > that do not follow the prefix convention, at least in some of the more > important cases (alist is a good example). I think that would be a > big improvement. >=20 > We could use 'define-obsolete-function-alias' to do that. We are > under no obligation to remove the obsolete aliases, so it would not > have to break any existing code. That sounds plausible, yes. I think Lisp oldtimers would tend to use the "classical" names, they are deeply ingrained. But aliasing sounds friendly to both parties :) Cheers -- t --f2QGlHpHGjS2mn6Y Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAl6piJwACgkQBcgs9XrR2kZY0ACdEXV67FooYlOMrhDpMetBV1mR gasAnA60CeSsh1jh53zuEwkyhF9jxi6T =EOxB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --f2QGlHpHGjS2mn6Y--