From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Why mouse-1/2/3 ? Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2020 16:08:52 +0200 Message-ID: <20200427140852.GA14552@tuxteam.de> References: <20200427113141.GH30150@tuxteam.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="d6Gm4EdcadzBjdND" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="36739"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Apr 27 16:09:44 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jT4S8-0009TV-Gq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 27 Apr 2020 16:09:44 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47042 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jT4S7-0002rd-HL for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 27 Apr 2020 10:09:43 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:51618) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jT4RN-0002FP-Kp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Apr 2020 10:08:58 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jT4RL-0006cQ-S9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Apr 2020 10:08:57 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.tuxteam.de ([5.199.139.25]:52978) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jT4RK-0006WN-VK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Apr 2020 10:08:55 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tuxteam.de; s=mail; h=From:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:To:Date; bh=z1c0CqMnvt/YxpSOWM6YC6+v6Qiiumap3S0nW5YrqY8=; b=jTLsCdy9AcnGvLHYENsuV1hF5ez4zm+OvCPGoJbT6AOJEfUutO4ij2e6UKAoa7UUtMDn7edRRNf79l/cusSGZjny4shQuG2oJH0p6CfUycJI+D/Ei1kkQ0m0AbUDDe/DFPb6nhXfoYwShtIWvYP1Q0GHiqaZnapjh3+3rslgmJiCuqrljfmprdK7gzh1N462p8FoZfC7oaaEtnLO6ts2366XVEdLaSMgmcfqW0qhuMmij+4ZAxjf9r7+G7bTITXRCZZ9hJlSndYvkCq7lWmtxAr6hvdyb7QXJ3xthfMGYQDM1hUr8/bgbQ2ZbSXgUAo9r4F1c6gW/by+WiH5+Q0l7w==; Original-Received: from tomas by mail.tuxteam.de with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1jT4RI-0004KQ-45 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Apr 2020 16:08:52 +0200 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=5.199.139.25; envelope-from=tomas@tuxteam.de; helo=mail.tuxteam.de X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/04/27 10:08:52 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.1-3.10 [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 5.199.139.25 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:247926 Archived-At: --d6Gm4EdcadzBjdND Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 09:36:41AM -0400, Cl=C3=A9ment Pit-Claudel wrote: > On 27/04/2020 07.31, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > > If you want Emacs to adapt in this point, it's on you to convince > > Emacs people that this change is important. >=20 > FWIW, I don't find the comparison to speaking German very convincing eith= er. All metaphors suck in some way. My point is... I've seen all too often this antipattern: some enters an existing culture and shouts into the room "hey, why are you doing this in such a weird way? Come do it this other way I propose, it's much better!". I think if you want to convince people, you might want to go a bit smarter about that :-) > > You haven't managed to convince me [...] > Neither have you managed to convince me that mouse-1-2-3 is valuable.=20 Fair enough. Cheers -- t --d6Gm4EdcadzBjdND Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAl6m53QACgkQBcgs9XrR2kbNagCfSoUkOYACSHXS6nyMTTXWJ/Mf 7PYAn0xlp1X+gztiKQtjP2Ecj+7TbO8n =6ljc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --d6Gm4EdcadzBjdND--