From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ulrich Mueller Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Corrected tarballs for Emacs 23.2 and 23.3 Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 11:16:56 +0100 Message-ID: <20193.57368.152083.204971@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> References: <87vcq72x4p.fsf@gnu.org> <20176.50580.786896.133491@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <20185.65327.407385.493168@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <7ohb1dz24a.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <20191.10517.713344.799189@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <871usey2yh.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1323425845 4070 80.91.229.12 (9 Dec 2011 10:17:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 10:17:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Chong Yidong Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 09 11:17:21 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RYxW3-000648-UI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 09 Dec 2011 11:17:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56976 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RYxW2-0004aG-L7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 09 Dec 2011 05:17:18 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:41720) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RYxVw-0004Zz-G6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Dec 2011 05:17:16 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RYxVv-0002k9-Nm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Dec 2011 05:17:12 -0500 Original-Received: from a1iwww1.kph.uni-mainz.de ([134.93.134.1]:52396) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RYxVt-0002i6-Oy; Fri, 09 Dec 2011 05:17:09 -0500 Original-Received: from a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de (a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de [134.93.134.92]) by a1iwww1.kph.uni-mainz.de (8.14.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id pB9AGuS9018350; Fri, 9 Dec 2011 11:16:56 +0100 Original-Received: from a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de (8.14.5/8.14.2) with ESMTP id pB9AGu20030024; Fri, 9 Dec 2011 11:16:56 +0100 Original-Received: (from ulm@localhost) by a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id pB9AGuUO030023; Fri, 9 Dec 2011 11:16:56 +0100 In-Reply-To: <871usey2yh.fsf@gnu.org> X-Mailer: VM 8.1.1 under 23.3.3 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 134.93.134.1 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:146596 Archived-At: >>>>> On Fri, 09 Dec 2011, Chong Yidong wrote: > Ulrich Mueller writes: >> Indeed, we could add the diff between 23.3a and 23.3b (about 65 kB >> uncompressed) to our patchball. We'd still have to distribute the >> problematic 23.3a tarball though, and mirror it ourselves, because >> it's gone from GNU mirrors. >> >> It would be too much to hope for a 23.3c tarball with timestamps >> fixed, I suppose? > Hmm, I'm not sure how the timestamps got messed up. Otherwise 23.xb > should have no changes from 23.xa apart from the etc/grammars > directory. Sorry about that. Apart from the timestamp, there are no other changes in the tarball outside of the etc/grammars dir. But as noted before, some unrelated installed files change because of the rebuild. > But I don't think the problem of increased compilation time is > severe enough to warrant making new tarballs, unless there is a > demonstrable bug in usage of the compiled Emacs. The compile time is not the problem, but the rebuild that results in loaddefs files with duplicate entries. And for us as a distro it's the other way around: I cannot add 23.3b to our stable tree because of those changes in the installed image. We must go through a complete cycle of testing, because we cannot be sure that the changes don't cause any subtle bugs (the more since I didn't see any upstream pretest for the 23.3b release). Ulrich