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X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4864:20::336 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 13 Dec 2018 14:51:20 -0500 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:231805 Archived-At: On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 10:47:18AM -0800, Paul Eggert wrote: > I see that Harbuzz is disabled by default by 'configure', and that there's > an environment variable to disable it at runtime. I propose removing the > environment variable, and enabling Harfbuzz by default at 'configure' time > (if the Harbuzz libraries are available), as I don't see much point in > nudging users away from Harfbuzz. The environment variable is to allow for easily switching HarfBuzz on/off during development without re-compiling, when I ported other projects to HarfBuzz that was handy in debugging regressions caused by HarfBuzz integration. Regards, Khaled