From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Alan Mackenzie Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: scratch/accurate-warning-pos: Solid progress: the branch now bootstraps. Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2018 21:28:00 +0000 Message-ID: <20181129212800.GH12576@ACM> References: <20181127074336.GA4705@ACM> <0ec5806a-0cc6-8b9f-6bc2-97875e36a511@cs.ucla.edu> <20181127211539.GB4705@ACM> <8c38f335-b25d-9ef6-110c-6efc4fda9d67@cs.ucla.edu> <83r2f5g1gw.fsf@gnu.org> <20181129105434.GC12576@ACM> <831s74dtma.fsf@gnu.org> <20181129113717.GD12576@ACM> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1543526993 28737 195.159.176.226 (29 Nov 2018 21:29:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2018 21:29:53 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) Cc: michael_heerdegen@web.de, Eli Zaretskii , cpitclaudel@gmail.com, monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 29 22:29:48 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gSTsZ-0007K6-VD for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2018 22:29:48 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56540 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gSTug-00013i-FF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2018 16:31:58 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59089) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gSTuW-00013S-Ue for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2018 16:31:49 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gSTuT-0006CR-M6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2018 16:31:48 -0500 Original-Received: from colin.muc.de ([193.149.48.1]:40745 helo=mail.muc.de) by eggs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gSTuT-0006AJ-Ad for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2018 16:31:45 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail 83158 invoked by uid 3782); 29 Nov 2018 21:31:44 -0000 Original-Received: from acm.muc.de (p2E5D5BA2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [46.93.91.162]) by colin.muc.de (tmda-ofmipd) with ESMTP; Thu, 29 Nov 2018 22:31:42 +0100 Original-Received: (qmail 11004 invoked by uid 1000); 29 Nov 2018 21:28:00 -0000 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.1.12 (Macallan) X-Primary-Address: acm@muc.de X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: FreeBSD 9.x [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 193.149.48.1 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:231523 Archived-At: On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 13:12:36 -0800, Paul Eggert wrote: > On 11/29/18 3:37 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > I was really asking Paul, since it was originally his idea. > I don't like the idea of having two instances of Emacs installed, a > "main" one and a "debugging" used only for byte-compilation. I suggested > the idea only because it's better than having only a "debugging" Emacs > that is slower for everything. A better description than "debugging" Emacs would be "debugged" Emacs; it's the one whose compiler works. The "main" one's compiler is buggy. The degree of slow down is minimal in practical use. Again, the question, Paul: is the idea of the two instances of code still live? -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).