From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Tak Kunihiro Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: menu-bar-help-menu Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2018 13:20:16 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <20181116.132016.345008228744400751.tkk@misasa.okayama-u.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1542341971 15506 195.159.176.226 (16 Nov 2018 04:19:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2018 04:19:31 +0000 (UTC) Cc: tkk@misasa.okayama-u.ac.jp To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 16 05:19:27 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gNVbK-0003y5-UJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2018 05:19:27 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42103 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gNVdR-0000hy-2H for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2018 23:21:37 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37681) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gNVco-0000hj-JN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2018 23:20:59 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gNVcl-0007V4-GB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2018 23:20:58 -0500 Original-Received: from s12p02o152.mxlogic.net ([208.65.145.75]:52390) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gNVcl-00078f-8F for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2018 23:20:55 -0500 Original-Received: from unknown [42.127.236.175] (EHLO mlsec.cc.okayama-u.ac.jp) by s12p02o152.mxlogic.net(mxl_mta-8.5.0-1964) over TLS secured channel with ESMTP id 3854eeb5.0.9750743.00-367.10570621.s12p02o152.mxlogic.net (envelope-from ); Thu, 15 Nov 2018 21:20:20 -0700 (MST) X-MXL-Hash: 5bee4584407326ae-7d221a4845d4c5a560fd4415c842d158e85866f7 Original-Received: from alml002.ouadm.okayama-u.ac.jp (unknown [42.127.236.168]) by mlsec.cc.okayama-u.ac.jp with smtp id 49c3_36e5_3a7cc912_5973_4ddd_8c2c_d9fbd70e1f87; Fri, 16 Nov 2018 13:20:18 +0900 Original-Received: from localhost (vesta.misasa.okayama-u.ac.jp [150.46.48.154]) by alml002.ouadm.okayama-u.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 26AD44C0CA0; Fri, 16 Nov 2018 13:20:18 +0900 (JST) X-Mailer: Mew version 6.8 on Emacs 27.0 X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 11 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 4 Rules triggered EDT_SA_AU_PASS=0, EDT_SA_DN_PASS=0, EDT_SA_TS_PASS=0, RV6419=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.3.0.9418 : core <6419> : inlines <6960> : streams <1804399> : uri <2750382> X-AnalysisOut: [v=2.2 cv=QYwWhoTv c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=8LLPK8U+aGQ6qN8QlyMYtQ==] X-AnalysisOut: [:117 a=8LLPK8U+aGQ6qN8QlyMYtQ==:17 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=JHt] X-AnalysisOut: [Hm7312UAA:10 a=9Dc0uEea-a3_nVFzMUcA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10] X-Spam: [F=0.5000000000; SD=0.5; CM=0.500; MH=0.500(2018111514); S=0.356(2015072901)] X-MAIL-FROM: X-SOURCE-IP: [42.127.236.175] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 208.65.145.75 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:231176 Archived-At: I often find help menu to be very useful. I think the word "Emacs" is too often shown up in the help menu. Most of "Emacs" in the help menu could be taken out to read better. I propose the new help menu as shown below. CURRENT PROPOSE ------- ------- Emacs Tutorial -> Tutorial Emacs Tutorial (choose language)... -> Tutorial (choose language)... Emacs FAQ -> FAQ Emacs News -> News Emacs Known Problems -> Known Problems How to Report a Bug How to Report a Bug Send Bug Report... Send Bug Report... Emacs Psychotherapist -> Psychotherapist --- --- Search Documentation Search Documentation Describe Describe Read the Emacs Manual -> Read the Manual More Manuals More Manuals Search Build-in Packages Search Build-in Packages Finding Extra Packages Finding Extra Packages --- --- Getting New Versions Getting New Versions Copying Conditions Copying Conditions (Non)Warranty (Non)Warranty --- --- About Emacs About Emacs About GNU About GNU