From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Alan Mackenzie Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [emacs -q versus empty .emacs file] (was: tgz extension and dired-do-compress) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2018 12:21:16 +0000 Message-ID: <20181114122116.GA4577@ACM> References: <875zx1xgiq.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <83lg5w9956.fsf@gnu.org> <87d0r76ewm.fsf_-_@mat.ucm.es> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1542198081 9908 195.159.176.226 (14 Nov 2018 12:21:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2018 12:21:21 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 14 13:21:17 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gMuAW-0002S8-0r for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2018 13:21:16 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59769 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gMuCc-0005ay-Eq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2018 07:23:26 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55619) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gMuCT-0005ah-K9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2018 07:23:18 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gMuCP-0007oe-Lt for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2018 07:23:17 -0500 Original-Received: from colin.muc.de ([193.149.48.1]:10211 helo=mail.muc.de) by eggs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gMuCP-0007nP-B0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2018 07:23:13 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail 55969 invoked by uid 3782); 14 Nov 2018 12:23:10 -0000 Original-Received: from acm.muc.de (p5B1476EE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [91.20.118.238]) by colin.muc.de (tmda-ofmipd) with ESMTP; Wed, 14 Nov 2018 13:23:10 +0100 Original-Received: (qmail 4586 invoked by uid 1000); 14 Nov 2018 12:21:16 -0000 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87d0r76ewm.fsf_-_@mat.ucm.es> X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.1.12 (Macallan) X-Primary-Address: acm@muc.de X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: FreeBSD 9.x [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 193.149.48.1 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:231125 Archived-At: Hello, Uwe. On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 13:07:37 +0100, Uwe Brauer wrote: > >>> "Eli" == Eli Zaretskii writes: > > I don't know, because it works for me. Did you try in "emacs -Q"? > I also tried out emacs -q and it works as expected, but when I start > emacs Please don't confuse "emacs -Q" with "emacs -q" - they're not the same. > with a .emacs file which is empty the behavior of dired changes, so > something is loaded but what? > According to man emacs: emacs -q just does not load the init file > So why does not emacs -q and an empty .emacs file show the same behavior? With "-q", you're loading site-start.el, should it exist, but not your .emacs. With "-Q", you don't even load site-start.el. Hope that helps! -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).