From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Alan Mackenzie Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: delete-selection-mode as default Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2018 18:37:02 +0000 Message-ID: <20180917183702.GA19442@ACM> References: <7bed1f76-5bae-44cb-9b22-206b513043be@default> <83d0tfkj77.fsf@gnu.org> <1c393214-c186-4760-9a37-e0450c946446@default> <83zhwji4hx.fsf@gnu.org> <20180915102016.GA15443@ACM> <20180915194419.bty3fzs5tnjez3pq@Ergus> <20180916105225.GA4579@ACM> <3D72B095-01EC-4E7D-90F9-5691AEFE16DC@aol.com> <20180917021705.GA4043@ACM> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1537209521 10623 195.159.176.226 (17 Sep 2018 18:38:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2018 18:38:41 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) Cc: spacibba@aol.com, emacs-devel To: Elias =?iso-8859-1?Q?M=E5rtenson?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 17 20:38:37 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g1yPs-0002cx-Td for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 17 Sep 2018 20:38:37 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37006 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g1yRz-0000dA-GV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 17 Sep 2018 14:40:47 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38699) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g1yRt-0000d5-T8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Sep 2018 14:40:42 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g1yRp-0001pz-R2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Sep 2018 14:40:41 -0400 Original-Received: from colin.muc.de ([193.149.48.1]:29674 helo=mail.muc.de) by eggs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g1yRp-0001mx-Jg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Sep 2018 14:40:37 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail 53117 invoked by uid 3782); 17 Sep 2018 18:40:35 -0000 Original-Received: from acm.muc.de (p5B14752A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [91.20.117.42]) by colin.muc.de (tmda-ofmipd) with ESMTP; Mon, 17 Sep 2018 20:40:33 +0200 Original-Received: (qmail 19520 invoked by uid 1000); 17 Sep 2018 18:37:02 -0000 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.1.12 (Macallan) X-Primary-Address: acm@muc.de X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: FreeBSD 9.x [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 193.149.48.1 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:229902 Archived-At: Hello, Elias. On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 13:46:54 +0800, Elias Mårtenson wrote: > On Mon, 17 Sep 2018, 10:21 Alan Mackenzie, wrote: > > The region is simply a portion of your buffer. What you're > > suggesting is epistemologically incoherent. It's "if I don't like always > > to have a portion of my buffer do I have an alternative?". No, Emacs > > can't support such nonsense. Sorry. > It seems to me that the desires of hw could be fulfilled by simply > disabling the mark whenever the region becomes inactive. This can be done by setting mark-even-if-inactive to nil. This has been going around this list for several days, now. It's been getting on my nerves that (unwittingly) false accusations about the region, that its "existence" (whatever that might mean) somehow represents an inconvenience or danger, are doing the rounds on this list. It only takes a little clear thought to see how ridiculous this is. > It does sound like something I would never want to use, but it does seem > like what is being suggested. Yes, I think so too. -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).