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From: Alan Third <alan@idiocy.org>
To: George Plymale II <georgedp@orbitalimpact.com>
Cc: nick@tenpoint.co.nz, emacs-devel@gnu.org, p.stephani2@gmail.com,
	monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, van@scratch.space, eliz@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Should this package be included into the NS port?
Date: Tue, 29 May 2018 22:42:23 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180529214223.GA20731@breton.holly.idiocy.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m0muwi9mmy.fsf@georgedp.developer.orbitalimpact.com>

On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 05:29:09PM -0400, George Plymale II wrote:
> Hi again folks,
> 
> The discourse so far regarding this issue has been very interesting. It
> seems there's been a lot of back-and-forth about how to solve this issue
> in the core. I won't reiterate or re-hash all of it here, but suffice it
> to say that it seems this brings some significant difficulties due to
> the way Emacs and the NS machinery cooperate. I'm still wondering if
> perhaps we shouldn't just put the band-aid of osx-pseudo-daemon on the
> problem for now.
> 
> I don't want anyone to feel over-burdened with the task of taking on
> this issue or to feel out of their depth, so I'm just putting this on
> the table once more. I talked to Ryan C. Thompson on Github the other
> day; he said he's already signed the FSF paperwork so his package should
> be acceptable into the core with little to no issues on that front.
> 
> I think this package will be a significantly easier solution for the
> time being (if incomplete), and it will give us a little more time to
> mull over how to solve the real problem for good.

FWIW I think we can solve this by defining:

(defun ns-make-frame ()
  (interactive)
  (make-frame-on-display (car (x-display-list))))

in ns-win.el, binding it to ns-new-frame, and then making that event
available everywhere. I’m not sure how to do the last bit. At the
moment it’s defined in nsterm.h; presumably it needs to be defined
somewhere else.

As described elsewhere the menus will be pretty much useless, but the
dock icon menu should be able to create a new frame.

It might be better to use the package until we can sort out the menu
issue. Thoughts?
-- 
Alan Third



  reply	other threads:[~2018-05-29 21:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-05-15  5:19 Should this package be included into the NS port? George Plymale II
2018-05-15 18:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-05-15 18:36   ` Alan Third
2018-05-16  2:48     ` George Plymale II
2018-05-18 19:36       ` Alan Third
2018-05-18 21:21         ` George Plymale II
2018-05-19  4:57           ` Nick Helm
2018-05-19 15:49             ` George Plymale II
2018-05-23  5:22               ` Nick Helm
2018-05-23 19:29                 ` George Plymale II
2018-05-19  9:50           ` Alan Third
2018-05-19 16:06             ` George Plymale II
2018-05-19 18:33             ` Stefan Monnier
2018-05-22  1:42               ` George Plymale II
2018-05-22  1:48                 ` Van L
2018-05-22 19:04                   ` Alan Third
2018-05-23  2:30                     ` Off Topic (was: Should this package be included into the NS port?) Van L
2018-05-23 20:43                       ` Alan Third
2018-05-24  1:27                         ` emacs-26.1-rc1: ./configure (was: Off Topic) Van L
2018-05-24  8:55                           ` emacs-26.1-rc1: ./configure Robert Pluim
2018-05-24 10:51                             ` Van L
2018-05-24 11:51                               ` Robert Pluim
2018-05-24 11:57                                 ` Van L
2018-05-24 23:47                               ` Van L
2018-05-22 19:15                 ` Should this package be included into the NS port? Alan Third
2018-05-22 20:09                   ` George Plymale II
2018-05-19  4:42         ` Nick Helm
2018-05-19 10:33           ` Alan Third
2018-05-19 11:51             ` Philipp Stephani
2018-05-19 16:52             ` George Plymale II
2018-05-23  4:55             ` Nick Helm
2018-05-23  5:11             ` Nick Helm
2018-05-23 15:26               ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-05-23 16:37                 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-05-23 17:23                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-05-23 21:21                 ` Alan Third
2018-05-24 16:37                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-05-24 17:46                     ` Philipp Stephani
2018-05-24 17:51                       ` Philipp Stephani
2018-05-24 18:14                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-05-16  2:44   ` George Plymale II
2018-05-17 22:13 ` George Plymale II
2018-05-18 18:50   ` Alan Third
2018-05-18 20:40     ` George Plymale II
2018-05-19  8:31     ` Michael Albinus
2018-05-19  4:29 ` Nick Helm
2018-05-19 15:38   ` George Plymale II
2018-05-29 21:29 ` George Plymale II
2018-05-29 21:42   ` Alan Third [this message]
2018-05-29 23:40     ` George Plymale II
2018-05-31 20:40       ` Alan Third
2018-06-01  1:58         ` Stefan Monnier
2018-06-02 18:31           ` George Plymale II
2018-06-02 19:39             ` Stefan Monnier
2018-06-02 20:11               ` Alan Third
2018-06-03  2:25                 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-06-02 18:26         ` George Plymale II
2018-06-02 16:45       ` Ryan Thompson
2018-06-02 17:22         ` Stefan Monnier
2018-06-02 18:56         ` George Plymale II

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