From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Alan Third Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Where is the code for the Emacs server in the core? 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[2001:8b0:3f8:8129:c9f:d078:73:e913]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id e197sm18064994wmf.4.2018.01.13.09.00.41 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 13 Jan 2018 09:00:42 -0800 (PST) Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c0c::236 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:221927 Archived-At: On Sat, Jan 13, 2018 at 10:51:55AM -0500, George Plymale II wrote: > > The Mac port doesn't support multi-tty with GUI. The developer has no > > idea how to detach Emacs as a GUI application from Window Server or > > Dock without separating a GUI process (not thread) from the main Emacs > > (Lisp evaluator) process. TTY-only multi-tty is supposed to work. > > That is Yamamoto Mitsuharu's statement on why multi-tty is not supported > on the Emacs Mac Port. Does plain GNU Emacs have this problem? If so, > how does it get around or solve it? I have to assume that plain GNU > Emacs is also attached to the Window Server or Dock as well so I'm > wondering if there's something I'm missing. I’m not sure this is relevant, but if you do this on the NS port: Open GUI instance start server run ‘emacsclient -t’ in the terminal close GUI frame You can’t open a new GUI frame, even though the GUI instance with the server is still running. You can see it in the dock, and access the menus, but I can’t find any way to create a new frame. So while it works, it’s not perfect. I don’t know what we do differently from the Mac port. -- Alan Third