From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Lisp primitives and their calling of the change hooks
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2018 19:48:39 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180110194839.GC6175@ACM> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvefmxecni.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>
Hello, Stefan.
On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 14:30:12 -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> > It's debatable whether it's within the rules or not. The rules, which
> > we so carefully crafted a few days ago, say, in part; "The arguments to
> > `before-change-functions' will enclose a region in which the individual
> > changes are made, ...". There will never be any changes made in the
> > quasi-deleted region, so to leave it without a balanceing a-c-f call
> > could be construed as against the rules.
> If so we should clarify the rules to allow for it.
Why? I mean, why should we allow this? What does it gain us?
> `upcase-region` will call b-c-f before knowing whether any char will
> be upcased, and I think we do want to allow that kind of behavior.
At the moment, non-balancing b/a-c-f are used only in primitives which
can't change the length of the buffer - things like
translate-region-internal and upcase-region. There might well be
advantages in keeping things that way, there surely are no
disadvantages. Non-balanced change hooks necessitate special handling.
> Stefan
--
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).
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Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-01-03 12:45 Lisp primitives and their calling of the change hooks Alan Mackenzie
2018-01-03 21:51 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-01-04 15:51 ` Alan Mackenzie
2018-01-04 18:16 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-01-04 21:11 ` Alan Mackenzie
2018-01-04 21:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-01-06 15:18 ` Alan Mackenzie
2018-01-06 15:51 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-01-06 16:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-06 19:06 ` Alan Mackenzie
2018-01-06 20:24 ` Alan Mackenzie
2018-01-07 11:36 ` Alan Mackenzie
2018-01-07 11:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-07 12:08 ` Alan Mackenzie
2018-01-07 13:56 ` Alan Mackenzie
2018-01-07 15:21 ` [SUSPECTED SPAM] " Stefan Monnier
2018-01-07 16:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-07 17:50 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-01-07 17:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-07 19:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-01-07 19:48 ` Alan Mackenzie
2018-01-07 19:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-07 21:10 ` Alan Mackenzie
2018-01-08 3:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-08 19:24 ` Alan Mackenzie
2018-01-08 21:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-08 22:24 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-01-09 3:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-09 13:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-01-09 18:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-09 19:53 ` Alan Mackenzie
2018-01-09 20:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-10 18:29 ` Alan Mackenzie
2018-01-12 16:40 ` Alan Mackenzie
2018-01-09 20:07 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-01-10 18:45 ` Alan Mackenzie
2018-01-10 19:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-01-10 19:48 ` Alan Mackenzie [this message]
2018-01-10 20:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-01-10 21:03 ` Alan Mackenzie
2018-01-11 13:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-01-11 17:39 ` Alan Mackenzie
2018-01-11 19:35 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-01-11 19:46 ` Alan Mackenzie
2018-01-11 20:15 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-01-11 21:20 ` Alan Mackenzie
2018-01-11 23:42 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-01-12 16:14 ` Alan Mackenzie
2018-01-10 22:06 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-01-10 22:20 ` Alan Mackenzie
2018-01-08 4:29 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-01-07 17:54 ` Alan Mackenzie
2018-01-07 18:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-05 6:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-05 11:41 ` Alan Mackenzie
2018-01-05 13:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-05 13:34 ` Alan Mackenzie
2018-01-05 14:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-05 15:54 ` Alan Mackenzie
2018-01-05 16:50 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-01-05 17:38 ` Alan Mackenzie
2018-01-05 18:09 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-01-05 19:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-05 22:28 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-01-06 9:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-06 15:26 ` Stefan Monnier
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