From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
To: Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2@gmail.com>
Cc: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Emacs 26.1 release branch created
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2017 20:26:48 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170926202648.GB5190@ACM> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAArVCkQ_OkzOXq8CfjeyaRdbG-+cXstKWzq4EJx+=PB+1bDx+A@mail.gmail.com>
Hello, Philipp.
On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 19:28:07 +0000, Philipp Stephani wrote:
> Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com> schrieb am Di., 26. Sep. 2017 um
> 04:53 Uhr:
> > Uh, let-binding dynamic variables is as old as the hills.
> > It's older than Emacs (and that's saying something).
> > <https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/emacs-paper.html#SEC15>
> It's still no good. Dynamic variables are global mutable state, with all
> its downsides.
And upsides. And upside downs.
> Early Lisps had only dynamic binding because people didn't know better. But
> now we know that global mutable state is almost always undesirable and
> avoid id wherever we can.
But my buffers are global mutable states. The whole world is a global
mutable state. Literally. How can we model them without such things in
our languages? Why would we want to?
But you're trolling, aren't you?
--
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).
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2017-09-16 12:56 Emacs 26.1 release branch created Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-16 13:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-16 13:09 ` Mark Oteiza
2017-09-16 13:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-16 14:51 ` Mark Oteiza
2017-09-16 14:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-22 16:59 ` Mark Oteiza
2017-09-22 19:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-22 20:05 ` Mark Oteiza
2017-09-22 20:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-22 20:13 ` Mark Oteiza
2017-09-29 20:25 ` [PATCH] lcms2 (was Re: Emacs 26.1 release branch created) Mark Oteiza
2017-09-30 9:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-16 14:18 ` Emacs 26.1 release branch created Alan Mackenzie
2017-09-16 17:05 ` Rasmus
2017-09-16 17:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-18 9:36 ` Rasmus
2017-09-18 9:47 ` Rasmus
2017-09-20 11:45 ` Kaushal Modi
2017-09-20 11:59 ` Nicolas Petton
2017-09-20 12:01 ` Kaushal Modi
2017-09-20 12:17 ` Rasmus
2017-09-20 12:24 ` Kaushal Modi
2017-09-20 13:03 ` Rasmus
2017-09-16 18:06 ` Nicolas Petton
2017-09-16 19:54 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-09-17 2:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-18 16:22 ` Alan Third
2017-09-18 17:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-19 17:35 ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-09-19 17:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-19 18:09 ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-09-19 18:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-19 18:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-19 19:11 ` Paul Eggert
2017-09-19 19:43 ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-09-19 20:54 ` About curly quotes (again) [Was: Emacs 26.1 release branch created] Kaushal Modi
2017-09-19 21:09 ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-09-19 23:33 ` John Wiegley
2017-09-20 0:00 ` Paul Eggert
2017-09-20 4:16 ` Marcin Borkowski
2017-09-20 6:17 ` Noam Postavsky
2017-09-23 11:18 ` Marcin Borkowski
2017-09-23 12:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-23 19:40 ` Marcin Borkowski
2017-09-24 2:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-25 13:40 ` Marcin Borkowski
2017-09-25 18:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-26 12:39 ` Marcin Borkowski
2017-09-29 12:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-30 7:58 ` Marcin Borkowski
2017-09-30 8:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-30 20:03 ` Marcin Borkowski
2017-09-20 17:44 ` Drew Adams
2017-09-20 6:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-20 14:45 ` John Wiegley
2017-09-20 14:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-21 17:30 ` Filipp Gunbin
2017-09-19 23:14 ` Emacs 26.1 release branch created Paul Eggert
2017-09-20 6:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-20 13:01 ` Richard Stallman
2017-09-20 13:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-20 20:37 ` Richard Stallman
2017-09-21 20:36 ` Paul Eggert
[not found] ` <<E1duedQ-0002Bs-O3@fencepost.gnu.org>
2017-09-20 17:50 ` Drew Adams
2017-09-20 6:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-19 17:58 ` Paul Eggert
2017-09-20 18:30 ` John Wiegley
2017-09-21 20:54 ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-09-22 5:19 ` Paul Eggert
2017-09-22 5:58 ` John Wiegley
2017-09-22 18:04 ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-09-22 18:47 ` John Wiegley
2017-09-22 20:42 ` Paul Eggert
2017-09-24 14:33 ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-09-24 18:13 ` Paul Eggert
2017-09-24 20:18 ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-09-22 7:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-22 18:41 ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-09-22 19:09 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-09-22 19:28 ` John Wiegley
2017-09-22 19:35 ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-09-22 19:46 ` John Wiegley
2017-09-22 22:07 ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-09-24 14:39 ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-09-24 18:26 ` Paul Eggert
2017-09-24 19:41 ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-09-24 23:16 ` John Wiegley
2017-09-25 0:08 ` Paul Eggert
2017-09-25 4:23 ` John Wiegley
2017-09-25 19:03 ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-09-25 19:43 ` Drew Adams
2017-09-25 20:24 ` John Wiegley
2017-09-25 22:25 ` Paul Eggert
2017-09-26 2:52 ` Drew Adams
2017-09-26 3:23 ` Paul Eggert
2017-09-26 19:28 ` Philipp Stephani
2017-09-26 20:26 ` Alan Mackenzie [this message]
2017-09-27 9:15 ` Alexis
2017-09-27 22:13 ` Richard Stallman
2017-09-28 1:48 ` Alexis
2017-09-27 23:41 ` Óscar Fuentes
2017-09-28 1:25 ` Alexis
2017-09-27 11:54 ` Philippe Vaucher
2017-09-27 18:43 ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-09-28 7:42 ` Philippe Vaucher
2017-09-26 20:33 ` Drew Adams
2017-09-29 10:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-29 9:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <<83shf597b0.fsf@gnu.org>
2017-09-30 4:06 ` Drew Adams
2017-09-30 4:41 ` Paul Eggert
2017-09-30 13:58 ` Drew Adams
2017-09-25 23:36 ` Paul Eggert
2017-09-30 12:10 ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-10-01 0:16 ` Paul Eggert
2017-10-01 11:37 ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-09-25 5:51 ` Paul Eggert
2017-09-22 19:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-27 18:09 ` João Távora
2017-09-27 19:32 ` John Wiegley
2017-09-28 7:28 ` João Távora
2017-09-28 7:28 ` João Távora
2017-09-28 16:58 ` John Wiegley
2017-09-29 15:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-29 17:04 ` João Távora
2017-09-29 18:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-29 18:13 ` John Wiegley
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