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[173.67.36.61]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id i41sm9771354qta.23.2017.09.13.05.50.24 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Wed, 13 Sep 2017 05:50:24 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by holos.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E06C669FA0; Wed, 13 Sep 2017 08:50:23 -0400 (EDT) Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400d:c09::231 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:218184 Archived-At: On 13/09/17 at 08:40am, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > According to [1] (page 53), MACLISP didn't have a visible > > gensym-counter, and instead used an integer argument to gensym to allow > > programs to set an internal counter. According to [2], it was only > > decided in 1989 to have *gensym-counter* in CL, so before then having an > > integer argument made sense if you wanted to manipulate the gensym > > state. Thanks for digging that up. > > but I wonder if people who use an integer argument here are the type > > of people to use `cl' instead of `cl-lib'. > > I think using the plural here is rather optimistic. I'd already be > surprised if there's even just one user of that functionality. Only one way to find out! I suppose I'll apply the patch I sent earlier.