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* On cl-print and help-fns
@ 2017-06-30  2:10 Mark Oteiza
  2017-06-30  6:11 ` Stefan Monnier
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Mark Oteiza @ 2017-06-30  2:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-devel; +Cc: Stefan Monnier

Hi,

While cl-print is a nice feature, I am puzzled why its use in the help
buffer is neither documented nor configurable.

https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/commit/?id=2c18969c8

I think that "Its value is #f(compiled-function () #<bytecode>)", while
less messy, is less useful than just seeing the bytecode, as the bytecode
would at least give me a clue.  The cl-prin1-to-string output is opaque.



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* Re: On cl-print and help-fns
  2017-06-30  2:10 On cl-print and help-fns Mark Oteiza
@ 2017-06-30  6:11 ` Stefan Monnier
  2017-07-01  3:29   ` Noam Postavsky
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Monnier @ 2017-06-30  6:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-devel

> While cl-print is a nice feature, I am puzzled why its use in the help
> buffer is neither documented nor configurable.

> https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/commit/?id=2c18969c8

> I think that "Its value is #f(compiled-function () #<bytecode>)", while
> less messy, is less useful than just seeing the bytecode, as the bytecode
> would at least give me a clue.  The cl-prin1-to-string output is opaque.

Maybe we should default cl-print-compiled to `static`, so as to hide the
byte-code, but still show the constants used in the code?


        Stefan


PS: Oh, and IIUC in the latest version of the code, you might be
able to click on the #<bytecode> to see a disassembly of the code.




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* Re: On cl-print and help-fns
  2017-06-30  6:11 ` Stefan Monnier
@ 2017-07-01  3:29   ` Noam Postavsky
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Noam Postavsky @ 2017-07-01  3:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Stefan Monnier; +Cc: Emacs developers

On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 2:11 AM, Stefan Monnier
<monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> wrote:
> PS: Oh, and IIUC in the latest version of the code, you might be
> able to click on the #<bytecode> to see a disassembly of the code.

You can now.

[1: 23ff664fd2]: 2017-06-30 23:30:07 -0400
  * lisp/help-fns.el (describe-variable): Let-bind cl-print-compiled-button.
  http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/commit/?id=23ff664fd24dbdd8cc5b9d1fb68423fe6592b0a0



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