From: David Requena Zabala <DRequena@gamalquiler.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: "emacs-devel@gnu.org" <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Preview: portable dumper
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2016 23:13:27 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161201221327.6004818.29179.20240@gamalquiler.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <831sxrphhv.fsf@gnu.org>
>In that discussion, you asked technical questions about the implementation of scroll-bar support in Emacs, on X and on MS-Windows,
and I answered your questions by pointing to the relevant functions which implement that support.
Thanks for that. I also seem to remember you bluntly denied a related issue with the configure script which you latter corrected :-)
> At no time in that discussion you proposed something, let alone some code, that was rejected.
This! no code, good or bad, came ever out of this to be proposed for inclusion into emacs.
And that's for a very definite reason: the novice who wrote it wasn't willing to put up a fight just because no new C code is welcomed any longer into emacs.
As a consequence I pretty much doubt I'll ever become seasoned enough as to be of any help in proper emacs maintenance. IOW, I won't become one of those much needed C coneisseur maintainers.
> What am I missing?
If I weren't any wiser I'd say you missed the hole point of my message ;-)
Look, this was intended as an outsider take on the broader issue of avoiding C code at all costs. At some point decisions have to be made and the more points of view considered, the better those will be.
At the moment we have: x >= 1. Where x is the number of once would be C maintainers put aback by the issue at hand.
I don't know the actual magnitude of x; you don't know either. But it's you who seems most worried about the alleged C programmers drought.
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2016-12-01 18:50 Preview: portable dumper David Requena Zabala
2016-12-01 19:37 ` Filipe Silva
2016-12-02 7:57 ` John Wiegley
2016-12-01 19:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-01 22:13 ` David Requena Zabala [this message]
2016-12-02 0:30 ` Óscar Fuentes
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2018-02-16 21:25 ` Daniel Colascione
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2018-02-19 22:23 ` Andy Moreton
2018-02-20 4:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2018-02-19 20:03 ` Andy Moreton
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2018-02-19 20:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-02-19 20:31 ` Daniel Colascione
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2018-02-21 6:05 ` Stefan Monnier
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2018-02-20 17:59 ` Daniel Colascione
2018-02-20 18:17 ` Robert Pluim
2018-02-20 18:26 ` Daniel Colascione
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2018-02-14 20:34 ` Alan Third
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2018-02-15 20:35 ` Alan Third
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2018-02-16 0:47 ` Paul Eggert
2018-02-16 1:07 ` Daniel Colascione
2018-02-16 8:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-02-16 15:02 ` Daniel Colascione
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2018-02-16 17:35 ` Andy Moreton
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2018-02-21 22:04 ` Phillip Lord
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2018-02-26 16:55 ` Daniel Colascione
2018-03-01 14:53 ` Andy Moreton
2018-03-02 13:42 ` Phillip Lord
2018-02-16 8:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-02-16 11:30 ` Andy Moreton
2018-02-16 15:15 ` Daniel Colascione
2018-02-16 15:52 ` Robert Pluim
2018-02-16 17:00 ` Philipp Stephani
2018-02-16 17:42 ` Daniel Colascione
2018-02-16 15:10 ` Daniel Colascione
2018-02-16 15:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-02-16 15:44 ` Daniel Colascione
2018-02-16 16:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-02-16 16:30 ` Stefan Monnier
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2016-11-29 18:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2016-12-01 9:18 ` Richard Stallman
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2016-12-02 4:28 ` Ken Raeburn
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2016-12-02 8:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2016-11-29 20:36 ` Daniel Colascione
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2016-11-30 8:26 ` Philippe Vaucher
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2016-11-29 18:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2016-12-01 3:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
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