From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Mark Oteiza Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: On removing some obsolete code from subr and core Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2016 15:08:28 -0500 Message-ID: <20161107200828.GA866@holos.localdomain> References: <878tsznpuq.fsf@udel.edu> <83fun6jpeq.fsf@gnu.org> <20161107003235.GA7843@holos.localdomain> <83ins0hshk.fsf@gnu.org> <20161107042415.GA27319@holos.localdomain> <83bmxriatp.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1478549369 3518 195.159.176.226 (7 Nov 2016 20:09:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2016 20:09:29 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mutt/1.7+23 (87911ba95dae) (2016-08-17) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 07 21:09:25 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1c3qE6-0006mV-Mv for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 07 Nov 2016 21:09:06 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56345 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c3qE9-0002HB-At for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 07 Nov 2016 15:09:09 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37027) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c3qDb-0002Gq-9B for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Nov 2016 15:08:36 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c3qDY-00054D-0E for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Nov 2016 15:08:35 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-qk0-x22c.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400d:c09::22c]:34790) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c3qDX-000545-Os for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Nov 2016 15:08:31 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-qk0-x22c.google.com with SMTP id q130so191345114qke.1 for ; Mon, 07 Nov 2016 12:08:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=udel-edu.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=LFFdnJhin8+jqOchPiGoDcLgdJSuz2LeXFxaOUw+u5Y=; b=T4QU0N19lY0K96OsvA7LLuV9Rezg/Y9ihg8UxYggDl5MaORHmcp3SPplNocv8PwDuw mg+/Az8L8bOCPeDhu+9Q4C3jmmKSJvOk2gxidcKPi6mGlP6DejnKM86B8ARc/7qGQxTH 2SdguMJyP2C0HQv/taibvsTRTm5K/D8ZCtly3x1XcaAcgTaC0RtngwYdn08TwbMx3ece C7OsrMiyz7T8jNOUaC+dadiODH+cZv/G8rRJyVzpT/oo9E5a9cRSYwRWu2A4LXHZsKXv foSOZcDu2ALSM5ycdSFimmZTwkAPZKZ02Qv65V4WoeSJ4WjOkjE9nd2HY5+CH5uTXO0Y K/FQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=LFFdnJhin8+jqOchPiGoDcLgdJSuz2LeXFxaOUw+u5Y=; b=mHX2r7i5d+rFU5kNAw0xh9j+kWnMQG02H9fH8oXDsdNFQEABIs2tnTmPKIXppLT8GU zcM/IKeUMTMAP4qhTaZaUb512/r1nT+gkSTvBmK6W05JiIHVPHb20JGMWWUSuXJNuLm2 aGuWRHDFHMbn3hrbRpE7i9Lb377pW4zh8gH5fly/ATjSPI2sjxQ8Lhqu6uo8fsjUfBgQ kFBpLNYKGodMNLipdp0jJ6sxEl/YIFq8WcIVN6QHpX4N0mfzl6FJ/HR0+mN8Yw7p7vTP ArIcr0HYno5ZFCAOdm+HL0EGFYNviNTO0QllRzqUAi3w7PahdkI67y/Lo5Vb4ZtQq80C J7jQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ABUngvduVIUjmdg9HqagfXGC2g1XNPJBV9A0EiEc8LVIzo7vcUJAwtO9hVf697nWrKSL9fcz X-Received: by 10.55.207.18 with SMTP id e18mr7921770qkj.48.1478549310614; Mon, 07 Nov 2016 12:08:30 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from holos.localdomain ([69.250.222.218]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id a47sm17306331qtc.17.2016.11.07.12.08.29 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 07 Nov 2016 12:08:29 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by holos.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A140466231; Mon, 7 Nov 2016 15:08:28 -0500 (EST) Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <83bmxriatp.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400d:c09::22c X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:209261 Archived-At: On 07/11/16 at 05:11pm, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2016 23:24:15 -0500 > > From: Mark Oteiza > > > > Ok, so we do nothing, then. The default-FOO variables go away. They > > are the only users of DEFVAR_BUFFER_DEFAULTS, so that macro can also go. > > I meant what happens if we for some reason need to reinstate some of > them? Partially revert the commit I guess. Though, the getters and setters for the default value of a variable have been around forever; perhaps you or someone else know better why the default-FOO variables might be needed again, or why they were implemented in the first place.