From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Perry E. Metzger" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Can we go GTK-only? Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2016 13:56:52 -0400 Message-ID: <20161101135652.7794d0ef@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> References: <24db2975-17ca-ad01-20c8-df12071fa89a@dancol.org> <4615E73A-19E2-4B79-9889-D3FA686DDDE6@raeburn.org> <83bmy0pl8p.fsf@gnu.org> <831sywp7ew.fsf@gnu.org> <83y413nsjm.fsf@gnu.org> <20161101124112.2604a08c@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> <83h97rnnsk.fsf@gnu.org> <20161101132202.02a5e1eb@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> <838tt3nle1.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1478024773 7207 195.159.176.226 (1 Nov 2016 18:26:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2016 18:26:13 +0000 (UTC) Cc: dancol@dancol.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, raeburn@raeburn.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 01 19:26:08 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1c1dkt-0007YE-2D for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 01 Nov 2016 19:25:51 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50293 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c1dkv-0001Rk-Qv for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 01 Nov 2016 14:25:53 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49433) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c1dIt-00075B-6J for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Nov 2016 13:56:56 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c1dIs-0002rs-Gm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Nov 2016 13:56:55 -0400 Original-Received: from hacklheber.piermont.com ([2001:470:30:84:e276:63ff:fe62:3400]:37603) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c1dIr-0002rM-59; Tue, 01 Nov 2016 13:56:53 -0400 Original-Received: from snark.cb.piermont.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hacklheber.piermont.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E0D165A; Tue, 1 Nov 2016 13:56:52 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from jabberwock.cb.piermont.com (jabberwock.cb.piermont.com [10.160.2.107]) by snark.cb.piermont.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E78E2DE01E; Tue, 1 Nov 2016 13:56:52 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <838tt3nle1.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:470:30:84:e276:63ff:fe62:3400 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:209081 Archived-At: On Tue, 01 Nov 2016 19:46:30 +0200 Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2016 13:22:02 -0400 > > From: "Perry E. Metzger" > > Cc: dancol@dancol.org, raeburn@raeburn.org, > > monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org > > > > > And even for POSIX > > > platforms, you can find on the net reports about thread-unsafe > > > malloc up to 2013 and 2014. That's not "very long time". > > > > Are you sure this wasn't just a report from some people who linked > > with the wrong library? > > Yes. > > > The standard has required that malloc be thread safe as long as > > pthreads has been around IIRC. > > Requiring is one thing; being able to implement it and weed out the > bugs is quite another. > I am having trouble believing this is really the case. Essentially all threaded software would break if required libc library calls weren't thread safe. Could you please point at a specific example of this having happened on a platform built after the mid 1990s? Perry -- Perry E. Metzger perry@piermont.com