From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Alan Mackenzie Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Unbalanced change hooks (part 2) [Documentation fix still remaining] Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 19:00:14 +0000 Message-ID: <20160830190014.GG6672@acm.fritz.box> References: <415d1cca-f32c-624e-a4be-9aadcf8a0f17@dancol.org> <83inujbpek.fsf@gnu.org> <20160830171222.GA6672@acm.fritz.box> <83inuimajv.fsf@gnu.org> <20160830174223.GB6672@acm.fritz.box> <83d1kqm9cj.fsf@gnu.org> <20160830181637.GD6672@acm.fritz.box> <838tvem6on.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1472583668 6872 195.159.176.226 (30 Aug 2016 19:01:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 19:01:08 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) Cc: dancol@dancol.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 30 21:01:02 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1beoHL-0000m5-55 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 30 Aug 2016 21:00:59 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50807 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1beoHI-0002Lu-Ol for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 30 Aug 2016 15:00:56 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49256) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1beoHA-0002KX-GW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Aug 2016 15:00:49 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1beoH5-0006RE-0H for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Aug 2016 15:00:47 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.muc.de ([193.149.48.3]:50229) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1beoH4-0006Pw-I8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Aug 2016 15:00:42 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail 40951 invoked by uid 3782); 30 Aug 2016 19:00:40 -0000 Original-Received: from acm.muc.de (p548C605C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.140.96.92]) by colin.muc.de (tmda-ofmipd) with ESMTP; Tue, 30 Aug 2016 21:00:38 +0200 Original-Received: (qmail 7346 invoked by uid 1000); 30 Aug 2016 19:00:14 -0000 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <838tvem6on.fsf@gnu.org> X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.1.12 (Macallan) X-Primary-Address: acm@muc.de X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: FreeBSD 9.x X-Received-From: 193.149.48.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:206999 Archived-At: Hello, Eli. On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 09:51:20PM +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 18:16:38 +0000 > > Cc: dancol@dancol.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org > > From: Alan Mackenzie [ .... ] > Look, do we have to reiterate this endless discussion that leads > nowhere? I wasted all my free time today reading and replying to > messages about this, something that I thought was closed long ago. > Important patches that were ready to be applied and pushed are still > waiting because I didn't have time for them. > I suggest that we leave it alone -- again. I think these matters are important. Very important. Critically important even, because they set an upper bound on Emacs's future capabilities. But I think we've both said everything that's to be said, so OK, let's leave it alone. > Thanks. -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).