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From: Mark Oteiza <mvoteiza@udel.edu>
To: Kaushal Modi <kaushal.modi@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: ¬ notation for not? Ref: Add a couple cells to lisp-prettify-symbols-alist
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2016 01:24:04 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160710052404.GA28783@holos.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFyQvY0-Wn-jXOioSxpXYCR96gf+LHwLEW9EFj5kkmwuVTrNGQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

On 10/07/16 at 04:44am, Kaushal Modi wrote:
> While I have never seen the ¬ character before, I was even more surprised
> that that was set as a notation for 'not'.

You shouldn't be, as it is the 'not' sign!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negation

Part of the inspiration for adding more things to some modes has been
that of the p-s-alist in tuareg.el:
https://github.com/ocaml/tuareg/blob/master/tuareg.el#L468

> now all instances of not are replaced with ¬ in lisp-mode if symbol
> prettification is enabled.

By all instances, do you mean there are places other than (not ) that
are getting changed?  Otherwise, that was the point.

> It seems a bit intrusive because I have never seen that notation before.
> While I do know the sqrt notation √, I can imagine this being a source of
> confusion/annoyance for some people.
> 
> Should these notations be instead suggested in the doc-string
> of lisp-prettify-symbols-alist? People interested to see these notations
> can then add that to their personal configs.

Possibly--I added them because I thought they were safe things to add,
being common symbols (fsvo common, it seems).  Safe moreso than and (∧),
or (∨), <=, >=, /= (≠) etc.  In those cases I worry more about
having something like

   (∧ (something so long I want to break the line)
      (foo bar))

and ending up with bad indentation because of prettify-symbols-mode.
Not that anything else is really safe from inducing broken indentation,
it just seems less likely.

In any case, I don't feel strongly about it. One thing I just thought
of is making a mode's foo-prettify-symbols-alist a defcustom--perhaps
that will be nicer.



  reply	other threads:[~2016-07-10  5:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-07-10  4:44 ¬ notation for not? Ref: Add a couple cells to lisp-prettify-symbols-alist Kaushal Modi
2016-07-10  5:24 ` Mark Oteiza [this message]
2016-07-10  5:47   ` Mark Oteiza
2016-07-10 13:31     ` Andreas Röhler
2016-07-10 14:57       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-10 14:35   ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-07-10 15:05     ` Stefan Monnier
2016-07-10 14:44   ` Stefan Monnier
2016-07-10 14:57     ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-07-10 15:04     ` Drew Adams
2016-07-10 15:20     ` Mark Oteiza
2016-07-10 21:05       ` Stefan Monnier
2016-07-11 13:35         ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-07-11 14:01           ` Stefan Monnier
2016-07-14 21:18 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-07-14 21:32   ` John Wiegley
2016-07-14 22:31   ` Mark Oteiza
2016-07-14 22:36     ` Kaushal Modi
2016-07-15  0:20     ` Stefan Monnier
2016-07-15 14:12       ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-07-15 14:46         ` Drew Adams
2016-07-15 15:13           ` visual distinction for prettified symbols (was: ¬ notation for not? Ref: Add a couple cells to lisp-prettify-symbols-alist) Ted Zlatanov
2016-07-15 16:14             ` ¬ notation for not? Ref: Add a couple cells to lisp-prettify-symbols-alist Drew Adams
2016-07-15 14:50         ` Stefan Monnier
2016-07-15 15:03           ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-07-15 15:17             ` Stefan Monnier
2016-07-15 15:35               ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-07-17 18:31                 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-07-18 14:12                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-07-18 15:07                     ` Stefan Monnier
2016-07-18 16:49                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-07-15 15:26     ` Ted Zlatanov

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