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[96.20.74.192]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 23sm1285570qty.40.2016.07.05.06.11.04 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 05 Jul 2016 06:11:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <058583919239409e2607da119d0a5f29.squirrel@cloud103.planethippo.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.13.2 (GTK+ 2.24.30; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400d:c09::241 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:205176 Archived-At: On Mon, 4 Jul 2016 22:33:42 +0100, "Phillip Lord" wrote: > So you can put it on the web. I think exporting is more useful for > things other than a TODO list though. This is the source code of > lentic, for example, turned into org-mode, then exported to HTML with > skinned with an info like javascript. Another important thing to note about org-mode is its flexibility to do things. I just started using it one month ago and I can already see what it could do. For example, in my to-do list, I=E2=80=99ve got several projects that aren= =E2=80=99t related and I would like to keep them private. I also got several task categories like documentation, implementation, testing, etc. Using Org-mode, I can select a project and configure org-mode in a way that it would generate a time report and a summary of my work. That report could then be exported in a convenient file format and be given to my client. However, I can=E2=80=99t agree more with RMS that this mode is monolithic. That=E2=80=99s a major problem. However, if we take CEDET as an example, Org-mode components can=E2=80=99t work on their own given the complexity of their relations. Could CEDET be refactored in ways that we could enjoy many of its functions? Maybe, but that should be done on a case-by-case basis. Etienne Prud'homme