From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Mark Oteiza Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [PATCH] Remove special requirement to disable startup message. 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[73.172.248.173]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 140sm18640693qhm.10.2015.12.23.17.49.37 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 23 Dec 2015 17:49:37 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by holos.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8F93A696AD; Wed, 23 Dec 2015 20:49:35 -0500 (EST) Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <83zix2p9lo.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24+44 (9480a363a68a) (2015-08-30) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400d:c09::22f X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:196744 Archived-At: On 22/12/15 at 09:27pm, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2015 14:09:49 -0500 > > From: Mark Oteiza > > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > > > > > . make sure display-startup-echo-area-message cannot be so easily > > > redefined or advised (up to some practical limit) > > > > > > . allow the value to be a list of strings, each one a user name, and > > > prevent the echo-area message from being displayed if the user > > > name is one of these strings -- this should take care of the use > > > case in bug#12370 > > > > > > Would you like to work on these enhancements? > > > > Thanks but no thanks. I'm not interested in obfuscating the > > customization of Emacs > > Overriding internal functions is hardly customization. But anyway, > that's the 1st item. What would you call it? > What about the second? Doing that would fix the use case reported in > bug#12370, without obfuscating anything else. I suppose I'd be amenable letting the value be a regex, but I doubt anyone here will agree to it! ;) Joke aside, to do so would be enhancing that which I'm arguing is a misfeature, so nope. Sorry.