From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Gregor Zattler Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Another iteration on the Emacs website Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2015 01:15:15 +0100 Message-ID: <20151212001515.GD3192@boo.workgroup> References: <87h9jpi890.fsf@petton.fr> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1449879375 6225 80.91.229.3 (12 Dec 2015 00:16:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2015 00:16:15 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 12 01:16:06 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1a7Xr3-0004Lw-Jp for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 01:16:05 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50002 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a7Xr2-0001zF-6c for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 19:16:04 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:44834) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a7Xqy-0001yp-Lx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 19:16:01 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a7Xqt-0002lt-3J for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 19:16:00 -0500 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.15]:53800) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a7Xqs-0002lp-R1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 19:15:55 -0500 Original-Received: from boo.workgroup ([87.185.149.11]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx003) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0Lw1vh-1aJQO40bl7-017q9Q for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 01:15:53 +0100 Original-Received: from grfz by boo.workgroup with local (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1a7Xqj-0006Kh-97; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 01:15:45 +0100 Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87h9jpi890.fsf@petton.fr> X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:Z6dzIn+8e8k/IC4zRNbeOQ8ARM+SOAKehaUR/ltVX9qob12mq8E 81CbKsxqU55qmwICrUG+7f8QKo42VwOqdqn+0SH+VMKkn6NY+v/04dbZgpS19dQMlSKjzo/ FFxlxStOmPJ4s3aC1G0tsNqvMoz5ZGviYFz9hcyW7faNQSsp/oIBMWS0gXZOEELFXKB262P gPKZ7b7bpvS2rdWQz5xAQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:Oj7Hr1PEObU=:PFKUdzpxdHR6l94sh4J3pj 44Qcpe4WP1PWZ1BtHLpFhiUTeakIcQcSphmg5R1jqAE0ZBs/hhCcvHZZKP7wjWs2FjRggF8cj iF7TNoOzdSDuK0SLydJ9tE4oDDtaixO/CcJo4qpIfASvukUluPEwi8bkKmUuW+Dg98Md6WBzN 715XnloGXMXUXXRVTzS2YQCTcH2dUYsui/lS/JLBKzGNY6hsVUvCA6PKt+lpmYhjRhr5NvsI6 YhMbNfTm5We+S5eB4jPqtnkSbxDfb57mB4w/7e076GwY1G7rz7rK0fd/J/gB6Il1QRuMOpe1a Fe08smmwzK1LwGeWF0JZwQoXWytNA9zsepbQDcVBnEqdBiPPOEKnB7O/5uRVudj6aMAnL6b7x sq4krg+axR/x1sOwhU/zqMcX0CwhnyLW0K+Cu2Q7u6k16t3e6jky5uKrv2OQoe53OQ9A1bT+C MRfLeE0alyMm2SKT48jAQuBA/AIqmL6w9POmIFeSCxlifTLY9F+Qk0w/9ILYyi5mB8rS5YXoe 4dkOVVN5wkt0VIiM3I7NG4yJRRK4yAg+555AbIjJvOvfEasMGo3YmZEgj/tA9H6NJjjptuqU7 3HE1KuFmu6jZmfIRbkD/oKrC25b+TmSC9xCdGSkG2NXRwbaoPR3TblK1fiObUF9t2mlaxfDe9 g58FQ1RjeFTkcyEYiwk2rGP4wxgjQWqiawiaPRHeaTGKQV/bjxJhti+ImzDTAl9CmkRAh3M3D FyOik/y8yB+aI/pEZ9rkdc4VnryA9qwgLcInREVpQdf936vMqrZgkblnqig= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 212.227.15.15 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:196147 Archived-At: Hi Nicolas, Emacs developers, * Nicolas Petton [11. Dec. 2015]: > I made another iteration on the Emacs website, which you can see here: > http://nicolas-petton.fr/ressources/emacs-website/ > > The most visible changes are: [...] I understand that Nicolas work is mostly concerned with the design of the official Emacs website and the text is mostly copied from the current official website. While the current official website features the string "free" eight times because it's tightly linked to the FSF ("JOIN THE FSF", "Free Software Supporter", "Sponsored by the Free Software Foundation" appear on the top of the page), the new design features the string "free" four times and the only meaningful occurrence (the FSF mission statement) is in the bottom quarter of the page (as is on the current official website). That said, I'm astonished that the official Emacs website does not state proudly and prominently[1] that Emacs is one of the oldest free software projects still in development.[2] Ciao, Gregor [1] or is it "proud and prominent"? sorry my English isn' that good. [2] The only other projects of similar age which come to (my) mind are the X Window System and the TeX familiy of programs.