From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Perry E. Metzger" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Speed of keyboard macro execution? Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 15:45:15 -0500 Message-ID: <20151210154515.065891df@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> References: <20151209163954.0cefcc7f@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> <87si3bcltu.fsf@isaac.fritz.box> <20151209180343.5a67c0e7@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> <83r3iu9rvp.fsf@gnu.org> <20151210120051.6be8201f@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> <87k2omciy2.fsf@isaac.fritz.box> <20151210123312.39c417c9@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> <83lh929omw.fsf@gnu.org> <87k2omta6x.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83d1ue9lns.fsf@gnu.org> <87fuzat7ot.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <837fkm9ire.fsf@gnu.org> <20151210151631.3b07c461@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> <87twnqrqgx.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1449780332 23950 80.91.229.3 (10 Dec 2015 20:45:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 20:45:32 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 10 21:45:28 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1a785e-0008Jp-Ea for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 21:45:26 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44428 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a785d-0004er-WF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 15:45:26 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:44767) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a785b-0004el-0N for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 15:45:23 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a785a-0003S7-79 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 15:45:22 -0500 Original-Received: from hacklheber.piermont.com ([166.84.7.14]:53954) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a785U-0003Re-3F; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 15:45:16 -0500 Original-Received: from snark.cb.piermont.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hacklheber.piermont.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 992952AF; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 15:45:15 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from jabberwock.cb.piermont.com (jabberwock.cb.piermont.com [10.160.2.107]) by snark.cb.piermont.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FCB02DE13C; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 15:45:15 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <87twnqrqgx.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 166.84.7.14 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:196065 Archived-At: On Thu, 10 Dec 2015 21:36:14 +0100 David Kastrup wrote: > Visual positioning makes no sense without visual feedback. Can you > show a single example of a task to be done by a keyboard macro > where visual positioning would _help_ achieve that task rather than > sabotage it? Probably not. This is one reason I turn off visual positioning at all times -- I use keyboard macros heavily and find that visual positioning interferes with my workflow. However, this is how keyboard macros work -- they record what the user would have typed -- and it would violate expectations for that to change. Regardless, I think that this isn't going to fix the underlying performance problems. Perry -- Perry E. Metzger perry@piermont.com