From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alan Mackenzie Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 9ffb6ce 5/5: Quoting fixes in lisp/internationa Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2015 18:53:12 +0000 Message-ID: <20150904185312.GE2991@acm.fritz.box> References: <55E9AFEC.9010309@cs.ucla.edu> <20150904162349.GC2991@acm.fritz.box> <55E9D9BB.90905@cs.ucla.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1441392746 15307 80.91.229.3 (4 Sep 2015 18:52:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2015 18:52:26 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs Development To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 04 20:52:17 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZXw5t-00084c-6i for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 04 Sep 2015 20:52:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34413 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZXw5s-0004fB-Dm for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 04 Sep 2015 14:52:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42701) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZXw5p-0004dw-CW for Emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Sep 2015 14:52:10 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZXw5l-0005T9-W1 for Emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Sep 2015 14:52:09 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.muc.de ([193.149.48.3]:12329) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZXw5l-0005So-Mt for Emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Sep 2015 14:52:05 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail 22467 invoked by uid 3782); 4 Sep 2015 18:52:04 -0000 Original-Received: from acm.muc.de (p5B1476D3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [91.20.118.211]) by colin.muc.de (tmda-ofmipd) with ESMTP; Fri, 04 Sep 2015 20:52:03 +0200 Original-Received: (qmail 6704 invoked by uid 1000); 4 Sep 2015 18:53:12 -0000 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <55E9D9BB.90905@cs.ucla.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.1.12 (Macallan) X-Primary-Address: acm@muc.de X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: FreeBSD 9.x X-Received-From: 193.149.48.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:189612 Archived-At: Hello, Paul. On Fri, Sep 04, 2015 at 10:49:47AM -0700, Paul Eggert wrote: > On 09/04/2015 09:23 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > >> Please try adding (setq text-quoting-style 'grave) there. > > It works. > Thanks for checking. > > I'd prefer to stick to the `text-quoting-style' > Yes, and the intent of the current master is to do both: i.e., if you > have (setq text-quoting-style 'grave) in your .emacs, then both (1) > unescaped curved quotes are transliterated to ASCII characters in help > buffers and strings, and .... > .... (2) all curved quotes are displayed as shadowed ASCII characters. These things are separate issues and all three of them must be (independently) configurable. > The shadowing is intended to assist you when you see curved quotes in > other contexts, so that you can distinguish curved quotes from true > ASCII characters. The expectation is still that the occurance of such quotes will be rare. > You should be able to see this by typing > a ` b C-x 8 [ c C-x 8 ] d ' e > which should insert “a`b‘c’d'e” into your buffer, and the curved quotes > should be distinguishable from the grave accent and apostrophe because > they're shadowed. They appear identical to the ASCII quotes. (Yes, I have the latest version of Emacs). > I assume this works for you now, with (setq text-quoting-style 'grave) > in your .emacs; if not, please let me know. I run emacs-25.0.50 with -Q, almost always. But I'd set `text-quoting-style' by a setq from M-:. -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).