From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
To: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
Cc: Oleh Krehel <ohwoeowho@gmail.com>,
emacs-devel@gnu.org, Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 9ffb6ce 5/5: Quoting fixes in lisp/international and lisp/leim
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2015 17:23:45 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150902172345.GF2544@acm.fritz.box> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55E724AA.30301@cs.ucla.edu>
Hello, Paul.
On Wed, Sep 02, 2015 at 09:32:42AM -0700, Paul Eggert wrote:
> Alan Mackenzie wrote:
> > Using my standard font, lat1-16, the curly quotes use the same glyphs as
> > ` and ', hence are visibly indistinguishable from them.
> That's no longer true as of yesterday's master commit
> 1a3518e7c361a9ceaa017c1334a83d14e0651a4e.
I'm afraid it is still true. After doing a C-h f c-mode, apparent
quotes were in the buffer. Checking them with C-u C-x =, they were
indeed curly quotes, but were displayed the same as ASCII quotes.
> On a terminal that cannot display curved quotes, ...
Currently, my terminal is not such a one. It _can_ display curly
quotes, but only identically to ASCII quotes. `char-displayable-p'
returns 'unicode for them.
The issue is not so much whether a terminal can display curly quotes,
rather it's whether a user wants them to be used or not.
> .... Emacs master now uses different glyphs for the quotes’ ASCII
> replacements, because the replacements are shadowed. The shadowed
> glyphs are easily distinguishable on my Linux console. Users
> shouldn’t need to configure Emacs specially, or their Linux console
> specially, to get this behavior. So this objection no longer applies.
--
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).
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[not found] <20150831061236.27796.57762@vcs.savannah.gnu.org>
[not found] ` <E1ZWIKb-0007FR-Kk@vcs.savannah.gnu.org>
2015-08-31 6:26 ` [Emacs-diffs] master b533552 2/5: Documentation fixes re quotes Dmitry Gutov
2015-08-31 6:39 ` Paul Eggert
2015-08-31 6:47 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-08-31 6:53 ` Paul Eggert
2015-08-31 7:00 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-08-31 7:13 ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-01 0:03 ` Richard Stallman
2015-09-02 1:05 ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-02 1:27 ` David Kastrup
2015-09-02 1:30 ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-02 5:19 ` David Kastrup
2015-09-02 5:30 ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-02 15:40 ` Richard Stallman
2015-09-02 16:32 ` David Kastrup
2015-09-03 15:38 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-09-03 17:42 ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-03 18:49 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-09-03 21:50 ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-03 22:08 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-09-03 22:47 ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-03 22:59 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-09-07 1:28 ` Richard Stallman
[not found] ` <E1ZWIKd-0007Fs-15@vcs.savannah.gnu.org>
2015-08-31 6:29 ` [Emacs-diffs] master 9ffb6ce 5/5: Quoting fixes in lisp/international and lisp/leim Dmitry Gutov
2015-08-31 6:38 ` Paul Eggert
2015-08-31 17:34 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-08-31 18:40 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-08-31 18:48 ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-01 7:35 ` David Kastrup
2015-08-31 17:40 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-08-31 18:03 ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-01 1:55 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-09-01 3:40 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-09-01 6:29 ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-01 10:45 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-09-01 10:53 ` Andreas Schwab
2015-09-01 11:22 ` David Kastrup
2015-09-01 11:40 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-09-01 11:42 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-09-01 12:06 ` David Kastrup
2015-09-01 14:20 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-09-03 10:16 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-09-03 11:22 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-09-03 14:50 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-09-03 15:04 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-09-01 13:31 ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-01 14:15 ` David Kastrup
2015-09-01 15:39 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-09-01 19:00 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-09-02 4:07 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-09-02 5:28 ` David Kastrup
2015-09-02 10:02 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-09-02 11:22 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-09-02 15:41 ` Richard Stallman
2015-09-02 15:53 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-09-02 16:38 ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-03 15:37 ` Richard Stallman
2015-09-03 17:26 ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-02 16:32 ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-02 17:23 ` Alan Mackenzie [this message]
2015-09-02 17:43 ` David Kastrup
2015-09-02 22:25 ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-03 10:48 ` David Kastrup
2015-09-03 12:45 ` Andreas Schwab
2015-09-03 14:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-02 22:13 ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-03 12:22 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-09-03 14:56 ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-04 13:22 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-09-02 20:14 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-09-01 19:25 ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-07 1:28 ` Richard Stallman
2015-09-01 19:33 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-09-02 2:34 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-09-02 5:23 ` David Kastrup
2015-09-02 11:16 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-09-02 11:52 ` Quoting yank/diff prefixes (was: [Emacs-diffs] master 9ffb6ce 5/5: Quoting fixes in lisp/international and lisp/leim) David Kastrup
2015-09-03 14:34 ` [Emacs-diffs] master 9ffb6ce 5/5: Quoting fixes in lisp/international and lisp/leim Stefan Monnier
2015-09-01 22:57 ` Richard Stallman
2015-09-01 0:03 ` Richard Stallman
2015-09-01 1:20 ` Paul Eggert
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